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re: Frick the La Dept of Ag!

Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 4:47 pm to
Big bucks sell stuff, like shares to WQ, as evidenced by a current listing for a WQ share with numerous pics of ….. big bucks.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 6:10 pm to
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Big bucks sell stuff….


Oh believe me, they kill plenty of big enough deer each year if that’s the case. The problem with selling shares on the river these days has little to do with the size of deer on the property and everything to do with the river flooding out the rut and turkey season regularly these days.

But again I go back to one of my original questions. What is the purpose of buying deer to turn loose on a free ranging piece of property? We know for a fact there is zero chance of influencing the genetics. Secondly, if you’re gonna purchase a buck, trailer it to WQ’s, let it out and shoot it at the risk of losing the deer or something going wrong, how about you just kill the thing in a pen and bring it to the property for photos?

Much less risk.

I trust my friend who was the biologist there for years. He laughs at the notion that someone purchased CWD infected deer and brought them to the property. He no longer works for them and has zero reason to protect them if that was the case.

This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 6:14 pm
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:21 pm to
Great reply Baw
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:19 pm to
I don’t understand how genetics can’t be influenced. You mean influenced quickly?

Also, a smart baw would turn out does with the seed buck genes.

Idk, it’s a mess and like you say here to stay.
Posted by jorconalx
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 8:34 pm to
You’ve pretty much brought the receipts on this topic. Thanks for the input. It still won’t satisfy the corn pile watchers though
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:00 pm to
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White Bear…


I’m certainly no biologist, but every article I’ve read on attempting to enhance genetics on small, free ranging parcels is a waste of time….according to the experts.

Part of the problem of course is the fact that does contribute to a deers genetics as much or more than the buck.

Of course I’m old enough to remember when Big Rack told its membership to kill every spike it could one season…in an effort to combat what was once considered inferior genetics.

I never bought into the cull buck theory. Either the deer is mature or not, and over the years I’ve seen some pretty piss poor looking young deer become solid 5-7 year olds.

I certainly don’t have many answers, but I am afraid CWD is here for good.
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 11:20 pm to
Thx
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geauxbrown
Posted by WillyL
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:55 am to
Two things amaze me about this thread and a few others:

(1) So many people have so little reading comprehension.

(2) Those same people love condemning people, who they do not even know, for doing something totally legal. If you do not like what they are legally doing, you have two choices- Work to have the law changed or STFU.
Posted by Tear It Up
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 7:55 pm to
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It didn’t take much investigating to learn that a local taxidermist whose family owned farm ground that bordered WQ’s was dumping the heads


All you have to do is look at OnX and you will see this story checks out.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:24 pm to
I thought some LSU professor BAW linked the disease to a bacterium, and if that is the case it should be fairly easy to manage. IDK, maybe he was wrong. The whole idea that prions are pretty much indefinitely in whatever environment they enter just doesn't add up, but not my area of expertise.
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 10:29 am to
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It didn’t take much investigating to learn that a local taxidermist whose family owned farm ground that bordered WQ’s was dumping the heads


Link any article stating a taxidermist was at fault, found dumping heads, or any of those heads tested positive for cwd.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 11:16 am to
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WQ share with numerous pics of ….. big bucks.


Places in locations like these don't need to import deer to have big bucks
Posted by jorconalx
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 12:20 pm to
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Link any article stating a taxidermist was at fault, found dumping heads, or any of those heads tested positive for cwd


I believe you were asked first to link an article stating that cwd originated on WQ
Posted by White Bear
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 1:02 pm to
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Places in locations like these don't need to import deer to have big bucks
I understand completely.

However, there exists folks who want these freakish looking deer and they pay lots of money to shoot them.
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 1:08 pm to
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Since CWD was first detected in Louisiana in 2022, there have been 40 deer detected with the disease. Majority of the CWD-detected deer have been found around Winter Quarters in Tensas Parish.


LINK

Geauxbrown
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One of my best friends was the biologist/land manager there for years. No one purchased pen raised deer and turned them loose on WQ’s. Instead, the CWD found there was the result of the membership failing to do what my friend told them to do. Stop baiting and start killing every doe they see.



Geauxbrown
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WQ’s complained to the LDWF who came out and began taking samples of the washed up deer heads. A lot of those early positive tests came from those deer.


First geauxbrown says it was due to not killing enough does off WQ, then its because of a taxidermist next door.

Was this taxidermist shut down? Did LDWF kill off most or any of the WQ deer herd at all?
Posted by jorconalx
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 1:09 pm to
None of what you linked said that cwd came from WQ
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
1733 posts
Posted on 7/31/25 at 1:12 pm to
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and wslks like a duck. It's a duck.

Everyone knows where it was found first, and has had the most cases testing positive. Not any where else comes close to it.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 1:15 pm to
You should probably not ever be allowed to serve on a jury. Besides, why do you care if it’s banned, you said you were g out my to bait regardless
Posted by Crappieman
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 1:16 pm to
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There have been 22 deer that have tested positive in Tensas, our club has shot 16 of them,” said Barnes. “The only way to stop it is to reduce the number of deer. We have some 800 deer on our club and we have been instructed by LDWF to get the number down to 400. We hate to have to do it but it seems the only way we can reduce the spread is to take out lots of deer.


The circumstantial evidence is overwhelming and is legally considered in any court of law.
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 7/31/25 at 1:22 pm to
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First geauxbrown says it was due to not killing enough does off WQ, then its because of a taxidermist next door.


Your comprehension is bad. I said, the lack of killing does, as on any property could potentially contribute to CWD being found. The taxidermist dumping heads that would wash up on WQ's each time the river came up could also significantly contribute to CWD.

Why is WQ's identified as a hot spot? Because that's where the vast majority of testing has taken place. If you tested deer from Davis Island, Big Rack, Yucatan, Diamond Island or a dozen other properties in that area at the same rate WQ's deer have been tested, you would discover the same results.

In addition there's a reason that smart land owners and clubs don't take their deer to be tested......because they know suddenly their properties would be going through the same thing as WQ's, especially along the river where deer densities are too high.
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