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re: Father kills son in hunting accident...

Posted on 12/5/10 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298363 posts
Posted on 12/5/10 at 5:49 pm to
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Tragedies such as this each year are a vivid reminder of the danger in the sport we love to participate in. One of the most fulfilling things in the world is sharing your hunting experience with a kid or someone that is new to the sport. However, safety should always be the first priority no matter what.


Kids up here spend hours at the gun range and even can attend classes as part of a hunter safety curriculum that not only emphasizes marksmanship, but target selection and tracking. People don't drink while hunting, and more shots are passed than taken. I can't remember the last time I heard of a hunting accident.

Hunting is an extremely serious sport and the whole culture that surrounds it must be strong and rigid as well.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
19347 posts
Posted on 12/5/10 at 7:20 pm to
This kind a tragedy pisses me off as much as it saddens me. A grown fuking man shot something he couldn't see, that moved with a scoped rifle before daylight........................WTF kind of human would do this,was it a total greenhorn who had no brains...........I can't come up with another scenario. This sport is not dangerous unless you're an idiot with poor judgement.
My condolenses to the wife, mother and siblings.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118226 posts
Posted on 12/5/10 at 7:28 pm to
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My condolenses to the wife, mother and siblings.


He shot his own son and the father of of his grand children. A huge tragedy that will haunt the family forever. All based on impulse and not identifying the target. Just terrible.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298363 posts
Posted on 12/5/10 at 7:35 pm to
H.S. friend was killed by his own grandfather. Another guy was killed by someone on a lease I used to hunt. If you can't identify the target, you don't shoot. This is one of the most basic elements of hunting, yet is overlooked too often.
Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
12287 posts
Posted on 12/5/10 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

7 yrs ago my 12 year old nephew shot and killed my brother while deer hunting in Texas. I know how the family feels and I pray for them.


Besides the obvious, how did your nephew cope with this? I'd imagine his hunting days were over . If I accidently killed someone, I don't think I could pick up a gun again.

This post was edited on 12/5/10 at 8:10 pm
Posted by kjntgr
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
8924 posts
Posted on 12/5/10 at 8:52 pm to
My nephew is doing fine.Took him a few years of therapy but he is actually getting married in Feb. He is a very spritual young man which undoubtly helped.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:36 pm to
Glad your nephew is doing well.

I recently got on a lease with a bunch of people I don't know. I have always hunted with people that I have grown up with and trusted and needless to say, this new situation has my attention.

BUT, there are VERY steep fines for shooting yearlings and small bucks. I think this encourages people to identify what they are shooting at.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7432 posts
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:40 pm to
hunter's safety course should be required for everyone regardless of age. Don't understand the reasoning behind people being grandfathered in for that
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298363 posts
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:45 pm to
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hunter's safety course should be required for everyone regardless of age. Don't understand the reasoning behind people being grandfathered in for that



They have middle school courses in hunter safety and game identification here in Juneau. Many girls take the classes too.

LINK



I watched some drunken Texas hunters blast the hell out of a pack of beagles once when I was a teenager, and realized that pulling the trigger was a very serious matter when shooting live game.
This post was edited on 12/5/10 at 10:47 pm
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 12/5/10 at 10:45 pm to
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hunter's safety course should be required for everyone regardless of age.


Hunter's safety, IMHO, does exactly jack shite to prevent this problem. I know the one I took would have done no good. Amp that shite up and require more range time, maybe. Change the laws to put more restrictions on what you can shoot. Make people look harder before pulling that trigger.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63370 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 7:22 am to
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Not being there, I hate to speculate, but "low light levels" is a red flag. No way should this ever happen. It's total crap to shoot something you can't see. EVER. PERIOD. That being said, I feel sorry for that family.


"Brush shot" and not properly identifying the target. Son probably not wearing hunter orange, either. Terrible tragedy that could have been avoided.
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17798 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 7:35 am to
Ground check.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45117 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 7:47 am to
Didnt the article say that he "walked into his line of fire" ? Maybe the shooter did nothing wrong and the son walked in front of the rifle?


never been hunting myself so Im just asking...
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
85501 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:00 am to
I've never pulled the trigger without spotting the deer with me binos. Sad story here. Prayers sent to the older man and his family.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182025 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:09 am to
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I googled it and that's the entire article posted above.


LINK


ETA: I own a gas staion a few miles from where this is. I just head about it but recognize the picture of the son from my gas staion.
This post was edited on 12/6/10 at 8:17 am
Posted by deaconjones35
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2009
9896 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:17 am to
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Maybe the shooter did nothing wrong and the son walked in front of the rifle?


The article said it was about 6pm when he fired the shot. Yes, he COULD have been shooting at a deer, but I doubt it. This evening at 6pm, go outside and see how much natural light you have to see. Better yet, go in the woods and see what you can see at 6pm. No way you should be shooting at 6pm. Way too dark. I have a stand on top of a hill in a field and I can't shoot after about 5:30 give or take. Way too risky.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182025 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:20 am to
What I don't understand is why not use phones or two way radios? My father is older so I always go get him out of his stand but we communicate with two way radios while I am going towards him.

Sometimes, for older people, the hunters orange may not be enough.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63370 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Maybe the shooter did nothing wrong and the son walked in front of the rifle?


Hunting after legal shooting hours?
Posted by Dark Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4494 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:41 am to
quote:

low-light situation


always use a flashlight at dawn and dusk, can't understand why someone would not do this..
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11217 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 8:48 am to
i don't understand how you can pull the trigger on a complete guess of what you are shooting at. some folks don't deserve a gun, or should i say the ones that don't have any common or good sense.
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