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F250 - Front rotors and brake pads changed... noisy
Posted on 2/23/20 at 6:46 am
Posted on 2/23/20 at 6:46 am
I replaced my front rotors with a set cross drilled and slotted rotors. Installed them with new ceramic brake pads. I did the customary hard stops (not complete stops) from 40-45 to seat them correctly. After doing this 10 days ago they still make a shuddering noise inside the truck and I feel a very slight vibration at the very end of the stop. Hit the brakes while driving and they are fine up until the last 2 or 3 rolls of the tire when you are about to stop completely. The feeling and noise is similar to driving through high water and then hitting your brakes for the first time.
I had someone listen to the brakes outside the truck and there is no noise at all when I stop. You can only hear it inside. Like I said it has been 10 days and I still have this noise. Any of you experienced this before or have a suggestion as to what might be causing this?
I had someone listen to the brakes outside the truck and there is no noise at all when I stop. You can only hear it inside. Like I said it has been 10 days and I still have this noise. Any of you experienced this before or have a suggestion as to what might be causing this?
Posted on 2/23/20 at 8:38 am to Tridentds
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have a suggestion as to what might be causing this?
Sounds like you may have gotten ahold of some semi-ceramic sintered rather than pure ceramic pads if I had to take a shot in the dark.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 8:51 am to cave canem
Slight derail, why do ford trucks eat brakes like they do? None of the gm’s I owned ate brakes like the two fords I currently have.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 8:55 am to KemoSabe65
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Slight derail, why do ford trucks eat brakes like they do? None of the gm’s I owned ate brakes like the two fords I currently have.
I just traded in a 2015 F-150 last month with 79K miles and was still on the original set of pads
Posted on 2/23/20 at 8:58 am to KemoSabe65
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Slight derail, why do ford trucks eat brakes like they do? None of the gm’s I owned ate brakes like the two fords I currently have.
Because the GM's never could build up enough speed to cause much friction on the pads.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 9:22 am to cave canem
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Sounds like you may have gotten ahold of some semi-ceramic sintered rather than pure ceramic pads if I had to take a shot in the dark.
That's interesting. I will have to look into this. The pads that came with it were part of the package with new rotors. I just accepted that these were pure ceramic because that was in the description from RockAuto.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 11:19 am to KemoSabe65
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Slight derail, why do ford trucks eat brakes like they do? None of the gm’s I owned ate brakes like the two fords I currently have
Honestly this is 2nd set of rotors and 3rd set of brake pads Had to have first set of rotors tuned after they warped from towing/stopping trailer through mountains in Colorado. They do not seem to be anywhere close in quality to the rotors and pads I had in my GMC diesel. Don’t even get me started about the cab mount bushings I had to replace recently.
Ford eats brakes? Based on a lot of experience towing a tandem axle trailer and a boat with tandem axle trailer fairly often they really do.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 12:32 pm to Tridentds
This sounds dumb to me but are the rotor slots directional??
Posted on 2/23/20 at 12:44 pm to White Bear
Doesn't a rotor only go on one way? I could be wrong though with these newer vehicles.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:17 pm to White Bear
Good question and I believe they are. The rear replacement rotors I just received have a sticker on them that says “driver rear” and “ passenger rear”. I didn’t even consider that. Will look at my front ones again.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:24 pm to cave canem
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Sounds like you may have gotten ahold of some semi-ceramic sintered rather than pure ceramic pads if I had to take a shot in the dark.
this...had the same problem and the pads were the issue
Posted on 2/23/20 at 6:15 pm to KemoSabe65
GM brakes on the HD trucks have been incredible for a while now.
My 04 2500 chevy had well over 200k miles on the factory brakes, and it lived its whole life hooked up to heavy shite.
I have a 2018 F250 now and the brake dust is extreme
My 04 2500 chevy had well over 200k miles on the factory brakes, and it lived its whole life hooked up to heavy shite.
I have a 2018 F250 now and the brake dust is extreme
Posted on 2/23/20 at 6:27 pm to WhyMan
Yes the angled slots I thought might cause a noise if put on “in reverse”, you see what I mean?
Posted on 2/23/20 at 11:00 pm to White Bear
Incorrect / uneven wheel torque can cause warping of the rotors too.
My 250s have always gone close to 70,000 or so on the factory pads with moderate towing. I do have to grease the slides every now and then when they start making noise.
My 250s have always gone close to 70,000 or so on the factory pads with moderate towing. I do have to grease the slides every now and then when they start making noise.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 11:11 pm to td1
I tried ceramics on one and all that did was squeak and eat the rotors. The factory pads leave a lot of dust but the compound lasts and they don’t chew up the rotors as bad. They also don’t require any fancy drilled and slotted rotors.
Also how you tow could be part of it too. I use the exhaust brake and tow haul to let the engine do most of the work and only brake when necessary or towards the end of a stop. I also make sure my trailers brakes are adjusted right and the gain is set properly on my brake controller.
Also how you tow could be part of it too. I use the exhaust brake and tow haul to let the engine do most of the work and only brake when necessary or towards the end of a stop. I also make sure my trailers brakes are adjusted right and the gain is set properly on my brake controller.
Posted on 2/23/20 at 11:56 pm to Tridentds
Why anyone would reduce the surface area of a already compromised rotor vs vehicle weight baffles me heat dispersion vs annealing the cheep steel in a rotor in a smaller surface area baffles me.
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