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Experiences with leasing land to graze cattle

Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:58 pm
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:58 pm
Does anyone have any experiences leasing land to graze cattle on?
Posted by TexasTiger1984
Houston
Member since Sep 2009
1375 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:03 pm to
What kind of questions do you have? My dad has about 80 head on 145 acres in MS. He used to lease our neighbors 150ish acres for additional grazing or when his herd got a little bigger than our land could handle.
Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
1752 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:17 pm to
Yes.

What do you want to know?
Posted by eyepooted
Member since Jul 2010
5717 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:26 pm to
Is it worth it financially. Can there be a profit turned on cattle on leased property?

Are there any major shortfalls that I should be aware of before going into something like this?
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 5:51 pm to
Varies depending what part of the country you’re in. Some places leases run per head instead of priced per acre.

I took over a place this year and I’m 11k in the hole not counting cattle bought. And that with doing all the labor myself and cutting corners everywhere.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 5:53 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Butkus51
Member since Jun 2013
117 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:03 pm to
My Dad and his 2 brothers used to lease 66 acres to their first cousin for years. He raised cattle. Cut hay 2-3 times a year with good weather. I’m pretty sure they got enough money to pay the property taxes. Not much else. May have been just a family deal. His cousin got out of cows, have been leasing to another fellow who just cuts the hay. Make money? I guess just depends on the situation
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13906 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:12 pm to
I'm no cow man, but frick no. Never a day off, I'd equate it to having a bunch of kids, always something fricked up, fences, water, drought, floods, worms, death, hung calves, just buy some square toes and a dually truck and call it a day.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 8:13 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:34 pm to
You're definitely always on call and the day you don't go check them there is a breech calf or a bull in the heifer pen.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:14 pm to
It’s hard to be profitable. You only make money off a cow every 18 months or so.

For every cow you have, by her 3rd calf you want to have her paid for and be making a profit on it.

I don’t pay a lease but around here they go for around $25 / acre. If you’re around row crops then good luck. Especially if they have cane farmers in the area. They have guys paying $100/acre losing their leases to can farmers every year.

I really don’t see how those guys can turn a profit
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37539 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

Can there be a profit turned on cattle on leased property?



Long term yes
Posted by Swampman
North La.
Member since Feb 2016
238 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:27 pm to
You have just got to put a pencil to it. Got to figure any additional expenses other than basic lease fee you will incur such as fixing fences, moving equipment to, etc. Will need to know what the land owner wants his land to look like before you sign or you might be having to run out there for mickey mouse stuff for him. Some want there land kept in better condition than when they used it!!!
Posted by HaveMercy
Member since Dec 2014
3000 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:27 pm to
Are you an experienced cattleman? If so find some land to lease - it will help keep country folk from selling their land to cheesy neighborhood developers.

I lease approximately 1200 acres to several guys w herds. My Dad ran over 3000 head, I can't do that so I cut down the herd and leased a chunk of the property. I don't try and make a huge profit, I just will never, ever sell this land.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 10:35 pm
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:22 pm to
Never say never.
Posted by FournetteForEver7
Member since Nov 2015
2296 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:25 pm to
Im the same. No matter what family land is the last thing ill sell
Posted by HaveMercy
Member since Dec 2014
3000 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:34 pm to
Yep. My Daddy came up hard. When his Fatner died, he and his older siblings had to quit school and go to work to support the family. No government ADC food stamp BS - they wanted to eat, so they worked.

At 14 my Dad got a job breaking horses for a cattle guy. By the time he died he ended up owning most of that guy's land and more. Also, people all around the country would send their cutting horses to him to train. I'm his only surviving child - no way in hell am I letting go of what he worked his arse off to earn. No way.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 11:37 pm
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19609 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:44 am to
Best of luck, I hope you never have to. My family sold the last acreage of what was 3 ranches encompassing around 5k acres a couple yrs or so back. Still makes me sick especially since that was the piece I grew up on.
Wish there was more people with your line of thinking. Most people especially in this area sell land as soon as they get their hands on it.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:14 am to
Land is not ours, only ours to use for a short time.
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