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Experiences with leasing land to graze cattle
Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 2/14/18 at 2:58 pm
Does anyone have any experiences leasing land to graze cattle on?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:03 pm to eyepooted
What kind of questions do you have? My dad has about 80 head on 145 acres in MS. He used to lease our neighbors 150ish acres for additional grazing or when his herd got a little bigger than our land could handle.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:17 pm to eyepooted
Yes.
What do you want to know?
What do you want to know?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 3:26 pm to Huntinguy
Is it worth it financially. Can there be a profit turned on cattle on leased property?
Are there any major shortfalls that I should be aware of before going into something like this?
Are there any major shortfalls that I should be aware of before going into something like this?
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 2/14/18 at 5:51 pm to eyepooted
Varies depending what part of the country you’re in. Some places leases run per head instead of priced per acre.
I took over a place this year and I’m 11k in the hole not counting cattle bought. And that with doing all the labor myself and cutting corners everywhere.
I took over a place this year and I’m 11k in the hole not counting cattle bought. And that with doing all the labor myself and cutting corners everywhere.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 5:53 pm to eyepooted
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This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:03 pm to eyepooted
My Dad and his 2 brothers used to lease 66 acres to their first cousin for years. He raised cattle. Cut hay 2-3 times a year with good weather. I’m pretty sure they got enough money to pay the property taxes. Not much else. May have been just a family deal. His cousin got out of cows, have been leasing to another fellow who just cuts the hay. Make money? I guess just depends on the situation
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:12 pm to eyepooted
I'm no cow man, but frick no. Never a day off, I'd equate it to having a bunch of kids, always something fricked up, fences, water, drought, floods, worms, death, hung calves, just buy some square toes and a dually truck and call it a day.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:34 pm to White Bear
You're definitely always on call and the day you don't go check them there is a breech calf or a bull in the heifer pen.
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:14 pm to eyepooted
It’s hard to be profitable. You only make money off a cow every 18 months or so.
For every cow you have, by her 3rd calf you want to have her paid for and be making a profit on it.
I don’t pay a lease but around here they go for around $25 / acre. If you’re around row crops then good luck. Especially if they have cane farmers in the area. They have guys paying $100/acre losing their leases to can farmers every year.
I really don’t see how those guys can turn a profit
For every cow you have, by her 3rd calf you want to have her paid for and be making a profit on it.
I don’t pay a lease but around here they go for around $25 / acre. If you’re around row crops then good luck. Especially if they have cane farmers in the area. They have guys paying $100/acre losing their leases to can farmers every year.
I really don’t see how those guys can turn a profit
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:44 pm to eyepooted
quote:
Can there be a profit turned on cattle on leased property?
Long term yes
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:27 pm to eyepooted
You have just got to put a pencil to it. Got to figure any additional expenses other than basic lease fee you will incur such as fixing fences, moving equipment to, etc. Will need to know what the land owner wants his land to look like before you sign or you might be having to run out there for mickey mouse stuff for him. Some want there land kept in better condition than when they used it!!!
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:27 pm to eyepooted
Are you an experienced cattleman? If so find some land to lease - it will help keep country folk from selling their land to cheesy neighborhood developers.
I lease approximately 1200 acres to several guys w herds. My Dad ran over 3000 head, I can't do that so I cut down the herd and leased a chunk of the property. I don't try and make a huge profit, I just will never, ever sell this land.
I lease approximately 1200 acres to several guys w herds. My Dad ran over 3000 head, I can't do that so I cut down the herd and leased a chunk of the property. I don't try and make a huge profit, I just will never, ever sell this land.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:25 pm to HaveMercy
Im the same. No matter what family land is the last thing ill sell
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:34 pm to FournetteForEver7
Yep. My Daddy came up hard. When his Fatner died, he and his older siblings had to quit school and go to work to support the family. No government ADC food stamp BS - they wanted to eat, so they worked.
At 14 my Dad got a job breaking horses for a cattle guy. By the time he died he ended up owning most of that guy's land and more. Also, people all around the country would send their cutting horses to him to train. I'm his only surviving child - no way in hell am I letting go of what he worked his arse off to earn. No way.
At 14 my Dad got a job breaking horses for a cattle guy. By the time he died he ended up owning most of that guy's land and more. Also, people all around the country would send their cutting horses to him to train. I'm his only surviving child - no way in hell am I letting go of what he worked his arse off to earn. No way.
This post was edited on 2/15/18 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 2/16/18 at 12:44 am to HaveMercy
Best of luck, I hope you never have to. My family sold the last acreage of what was 3 ranches encompassing around 5k acres a couple yrs or so back. Still makes me sick especially since that was the piece I grew up on.
Wish there was more people with your line of thinking. Most people especially in this area sell land as soon as they get their hands on it.
Wish there was more people with your line of thinking. Most people especially in this area sell land as soon as they get their hands on it.
Posted on 2/16/18 at 1:14 am to GREENHEAD22
Land is not ours, only ours to use for a short time.
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