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Ethanol "free" gas in outboards

Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:03 pm
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54180 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:03 pm
I know you are suppose to use as much ethanol free gas as possible but I am not a boat mechanic, what exactly does it do to the engine if you use it rarely vs constantly? Just curious as the boat is getting serviced now so I am debating filling her up at a gas station rather than the marina
Posted by dke2
dauphin island
Member since Mar 2011
1710 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:15 pm to
add stabil, you will get water in your gas tank
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11217 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:18 pm to
better use a boat regularly if you use ethanol based. turns into pea green soup after a few months of sitting up. clogs up the jets in the carb., makes it run like shite.
i swear i'll never use it again.
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:21 pm to
It's gets worse mileage and it wreaks havoc on rubber hoses and lines. Water in the fuel is another possible problem. It also attacks the resin in fiberglass fuel tanks.

ETA we left ethanol fuel in the motor over the winter 2 years ago (actually for like 4 months) and it wouldn't run worth a shite, we had to take apart the carb and clean it out an replace all the small fuel lines on the motor.
This post was edited on 8/7/11 at 7:27 pm
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54180 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:28 pm to
Ok frick that I'll just pay more at the marina
Posted by Schwartz
Member since Nov 2006
27097 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:31 pm to
You'll end up paying less or about the same. Ethanol has far less energy in it than normal gas, so the mileage sucks.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19261 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:40 pm to
if you look in the fuel bowls after mos of fuel sitting in them it looks like jelly. key is to pull the fuel line off the engine every time you get to the ramp and let it run out of gas and most engines have a drain screw in the bottom of the bowls drain them.
Posted by wlandry5402
Baker LA.
Member since Jun 2011
2 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:43 pm to
There are stations that sell ethanol free gas
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
42765 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:51 pm to
Ditto to what's already been passed along in this thread. Add Sta-bil Ethanol treatment.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:52 pm to
Does this all apply to new outboard motors? I have a 2011 4stroke and am under the impression that I shouldn't have to worry about it.
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54180 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 7:56 pm to
Hmmm, i am curious as well ours is a 2011 Yamaha 150 4 stroke
Posted by HeadBusta4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
11364 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 8:04 pm to
It applies to new motors too. The ethanol gas has a short shelf life so the motor being new does not change this
Posted by Boats n Hose
NOLA
Member since Apr 2011
37248 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

It applies to new motors too. The ethanol gas has a short shelf life so the motor being new does not change this
Right. I find new motors don't run bad on it like old ones, but don't let it sit up in your engine. Use Sta-bil and if you know you won't use your boat for a while disconnect the fuel line and let the motor run til it kills at the launch. You don't want that shite sitting in you lines for extended periods of time.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11217 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 8:24 pm to
PS, ethanol based ate out all of the gaskets in my carb. of my 4 wheeler, had to replace every single one. Even the pitchcock since it had a rubber liner.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 9:05 pm to
I usually burn a bunch of fuel and don't let any set up. Just want to make sure that running it through my motor won't hurt it
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72047 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 9:36 pm to
If you run it alot you should be fine. If the fuel doesn't sit, the only problems you should see would be from the alcohol eating hoses and gaskets. The best thing you can do is run it often. Sitting up was bad for motors long before they started putting ethanol in the fuel. It's much worse for them now.

I could go to war behind the ethanol bullshite. It takes more BTU's to produce 1 gallon of grain ethanol than that gallon of ethanol could ever return. Stupid stupid stupid
Posted by SenseiBuddy
Ascension Parish
Member since Oct 2005
4761 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 9:37 pm to
find one good reason to use in your boat?

no?

theres a reason for it. It sucks. Bad for carbs, bad for hoses, bad for boats.

get a water / fuel seperator, use 100% gas.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20615 posts
Posted on 8/7/11 at 9:40 pm to
If you dont have ethanol safe fuel lines it will deteriorate your lines rather quickly if you dont use your boat often.

ETA: n/m i see it was already mentioned.
This post was edited on 8/7/11 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32236 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 6:40 am to
quote:

It takes more BTU's to produce 1 gallon of grain ethanol than that gallon of ethanol could ever return. Stupid stupid stupid


And the corn lobby bullied/conned/paid EPA to approve the sales of E-15. That combined with the unrealistic (and climbing) "renewable" fuels mandate, also brought to us by the corn squeezers, might leave us with the only fuel being widely available not approved for marine applications. Period.

Any of your small engines should be burning Stabil treated fuel, as this crap will frick up mowers, weedeaters, blowers, 4-wheelers, jetskis, etc. And as noted, it definitely reduces gas mileage in everything. Frick EPA
Posted by OhFace55
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
7070 posts
Posted on 8/8/11 at 8:27 am to
Redneck don't you live in houma? If so the jubilee on 311 and lafayette is ethanol free.
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