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re: Duck Stamp Price Increase - Call your Congressman

Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by xenon16
Metry Brah
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:02 pm to
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Is that a long term fix?

Considering that most of the easements are in perpetuity, it sounds like a pretty good fix to me

The goal is to make the land usable for the birds, not to own the land. An easement is not a lease
Posted by tight lines
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:05 pm to
I agree about the breeding grounds--I'll admit I haven't done my homework other than what I hear on TV (hunting shows) or the occasional newspaper article. My impression is that a lot of that land is private, and to continue to keep it from being converted into farmland (possibly because of biofuel subsidies), DU and the like have to do these conservation programs. If that's the most efficient use of money because they can't buy the land outright, then I'm okay with it.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:05 pm to
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This was just completed in 2014..


Problem is that the pumps/wells they have at ran on diesel fuel. They only get X amount of funds to pay for the fuel. Once that is gone, the water drops out.

I know two of the people that over look that area and was told by them fueling/funds is the problem. They try to keep it flooded before the birds return North, BUT there is little to no water left over after the hunting season.
Posted by tight lines
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:06 pm to
some easments still allow the landowner to set conditions, such as being able to farm the land. That doesn't do much good on the breeding grounds
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Is that a long term fix?


The easements go with the land in perpetuity. It's a lot more feasible economically and logistically.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:07 pm to
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shooter35
Posted by shooter35
Member since Oct 2011
121 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:16 pm to
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That doesn't do much good on the breeding grounds


Neither does a couple ponds in the middle of 400 acres of woods in central Louisiana.

Ever been to the average WRP in Dec or Jan? They got more ducks at my local golf course. Landowner pockets the money then deer hunts. He couldn't give a shite about duck habitat.
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 3:17 pm
Posted by xenon16
Metry Brah
Member since Sep 2008
3592 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:22 pm to
Getting an easement prior to the landowner beginning farming a certain tract of land probably results in restrictions to farming later. The goal is to preserve the land in it's current state

You are right about some easements are already being farmed, but the PPR has ag fields right next to potholes. The easements usually put restrictions on the way they can drain/irrigate or alter for ag use in an effort to keep potholes intact.

This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted by xenon16
Metry Brah
Member since Sep 2008
3592 posts
Posted on 8/5/14 at 3:57 pm to
Did DU have involvement with these WRP programs you speak of? Maybe ducks wasn't the primary purpose

There are other reasons for involvement in the WRP, which btw is no longer in effect and wouldn't be part of the rate increase
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