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Drowning at Flatboat today...
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:12 am
Posted on 6/1/19 at 12:12 am
You fellas hear about the guy that drowned today? Didn’t see a thread on it yet. Sounds like his waders filled up after he stepped into deeper water and that was it. Sad day for his family.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 6:08 am to BeerThirty
Why was he wearing waders in the first place? That spot is safe if you don’t venture far from the bar. I feel sorry for anyone passing away like that, but man that’s some serious inexperience.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 7:17 am to lsuson
He may have been wearing waders but that was not the issue or I would have died many deaths.
Water in waders that are submerged has neutral buoyancy, swimming takes a bit more effort but they will not pull you down.
As long as you dont panic you can swim or tread water without too much difficulty for a short distance, the bitch is getting back in the boat or blind.
Water in waders that are submerged has neutral buoyancy, swimming takes a bit more effort but they will not pull you down.
As long as you dont panic you can swim or tread water without too much difficulty for a short distance, the bitch is getting back in the boat or blind.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 8:37 am to cave canem
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Water in waders that are submerged has neutral buoyancy, swimming takes a bit more effort but they will not pull you down.
And there lies the rub. Not everyone is a good swimmer or can tread water well, especially under a situation where they may be in a bit of panic. So yeah, it's very possible having the waders on killed him in the long run.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:02 am to lsuson
Hated to hear about this. Terrible.
Probably because you're more likely to get an infection from the dirty arse water than drown.
I expected the wader debate to happen. I wade fish a lot and always wear them myself around here.
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Why was he wearing waders in the first place?
Probably because you're more likely to get an infection from the dirty arse water than drown.
I expected the wader debate to happen. I wade fish a lot and always wear them myself around here.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:19 am to cave canem
Neoprenes, most definitely, but breathables are a little different. Then you have the panic factor. I just posted something on fb about that yesterday morning. People easily panic, and that’s when they drown. But usually it’s silent and a lot of people wouldn’t even know they were in trouble. If you can keep your head, waders aren’t bad and just have to be rolled off.
As far as why he was wearing them, maybe scared of the vibrio, or knew he was more prone to contract it so had to wear waders? Who knows, just a shitty situation all around, especially doing something that a lot of us have done a million times.
As far as why he was wearing them, maybe scared of the vibrio, or knew he was more prone to contract it so had to wear waders? Who knows, just a shitty situation all around, especially doing something that a lot of us have done a million times.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 9:31 am to BeerThirty
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Neoprenes, most definitely, but breathables are a little different.
No, there is no difference and the laws of physics still apply.
Water has no weight in water regardless of the container.
Panic is a completely different matter and causes the vast majority of drownings, you would be amazed how many people drown in water they can stand up in.
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just a shitty situation all around,
Could not agree more, hate it for those he left behind.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 10:14 am to cave canem
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He may have been wearing waders but that was not the issue or I would have died many deaths. Water in waders that are submerged has neutral buoyancy, swimming takes a bit more effort but they will not pull you down. As long as you dont panic you can swim or tread water without too much difficulty for a short distance, the bitch is getting back in the boat or blind.
This times 1000
Posted on 6/1/19 at 10:19 am to cave canem
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As long as you dont panic you can swim or tread water without too much difficulty for a short distance
A guy I used to work with drowned while wade fishing. Good swimmer, no waders, short distance to safety, but still drowned. He was actually done fishing and was wading back to his truck. He had to cross a narrow neck deep gut to get back to the bank and as he was crossing a ship went by and started sucking the water through that gut. It was obvious that he panicked because he still had a death grip on his rod and reel when they found his body.
Can you imagine how out of your mind with panic you would have to be to not let go of something that was hindering your ability to swim to safety? That's how powerful and dangerous panic can be. We all think we wouldn't panic, but you just don't know until you find yourself in that situation. After he drowned I started attaching extra flotation to my wade stringer anytime I was going to wade the surf, or unfamiliar waters. An empty milk jug may have saved his life.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 11:10 am to BeerThirty
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Neoprenes
I have swam in mine before.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 1:12 pm to weagle99
There is a reason waders have belt hoops.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 4:35 pm to cave canem
Maybe with the weight of water, but neoprene helps you float with a few extra pounds of rubber boots on. Breathables have no flotation whatsoever.
Posted on 6/1/19 at 10:17 pm to BeerThirty
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Maybe with the weight of water, but neoprene helps you float with a few extra pounds of rubber boots on. Breathables have no flotation whatsoever.
While u are in the water - water doesn’t add weight....
I’ve been dunked and swam with both on purpose and accidentally
Posted on 6/2/19 at 8:22 am to choupiquesushi
Agreed, but the rubber boots attached to your waders aren’t light and cumbersome. once you’re trying to swim rather than walk, that’s where the weight comes in and that’s where the neoprene adds some buoyancy.
Posted on 6/2/19 at 6:22 pm to BeerThirty
“Agreed, but the rubber boots attached to your waders aren’t light and cumbersome. once you’re trying to swim rather than walk, that’s where the weight comes in and that’s where the neoprene adds some buoyancy.”
Y’all are crazy, going in over your head in waders is practically a death wish. Heavy boots and throw in some panic and your dead, kid in the delta drowned with his waders on last year while duck hunting and my boys do not wear waders while riding in the boat to the duck spot.
Y’all are crazy, going in over your head in waders is practically a death wish. Heavy boots and throw in some panic and your dead, kid in the delta drowned with his waders on last year while duck hunting and my boys do not wear waders while riding in the boat to the duck spot.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 1:46 am to Manatee
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kid in the delta drowned with his waders on last year
How many drowned in swimming suits? obviously short pants are a killer if you get near the water following this line of reasoning..
I challenge you to go throw any set of waders you like in the water and see what happens, I strongly suggest you do it in a pool so they don't float off.
I would also be curious as to how you two believe concrete and steel ships are able float but rubber boots are heavy in the water and drag you down.
It is all about displacement and the SG of almost all rubbers is less than 1 hence they will float in water.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 6:39 am to cave canem
If I’m not mistaken, once a boat has a breach they typically sink? Fiberglass and styrofoam float too, don’t they?
Posted on 6/3/19 at 7:16 am to Manatee
quote:nearly all of these types of drownings would have drowned with or without waders.. was the boy in the delta wearing a PFD?
kid in the delta drowned with his waders on last year while duck hunting and my boys do not wear waders while riding in the boat to the duck spot.
do your boys wear PFDs when water is over their heads?
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 7:42 am
Posted on 6/3/19 at 7:17 am to Manatee
quote:going in such water without a pfd on is a death wish....
Y’all are crazy, going in over your head in waders is practically a death wish.
Posted on 6/3/19 at 7:21 am to choupiquesushi
Agreed on that too. Panic is a bitch. Everyone that wears waders should cannonball into a pool with them on just to see exactly what happens with them on.
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