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Posted on 9/22/17 at 2:51 pm to lsupride87
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What I never understood, is how some people put a date in their mind to not shoot does after, because they dont want to kill a doe who has a fetus. I'm like, if I kill her before she gets knocked up, or after she is knocked up, i prevented that future birth either way.....
Old timers have a hard time grasping that concept. Took my dad to a DMAP presentation. He was still like nope, nope, nope. Not killing does
Posted on 9/22/17 at 7:17 pm to jorconalx
I will go one further. Big mature does are more likely to raise healthy fawns with larger birth weight. Therefor if you are looking to thin your herd of does, kill old dry does or young ones.
Posted on 9/22/17 at 8:53 pm to Phattie Jet
Man I will come tag out on does on your land if you don't want to shoot them
Posted on 9/22/17 at 8:54 pm to lsupride87
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What I never understood, is how some people put a date in their mind to not shoot does after, because they dont want to kill a doe who has a fetus. I'm like, if I kill her before she gets knocked up, or after she is knocked up, i prevented that future birth either way.....
If she ain't pregnant, she might not get pregnant
If she is pregnant, well now you're killing 1-3 deer
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:04 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Omg
Posted on 9/22/17 at 9:10 pm to AlxTgr
I can get a good look at a fawn by sticking my head up a doe's arse, but I'd rather take the buck's word for it
Posted on 9/23/17 at 7:54 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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f she ain't pregnant, she might not get pregnant
If she is pregnant, well now you're killing 1-3 deer
Dad??!
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:03 am to lsupride87
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What I never understood, is how some people put a date in their mind to not shoot does after, because they dont want to kill a doe who has a fetus. I'm like, if I kill her before she gets knocked up, or after she is knocked up, i prevented that future birth either way....
Well, it's a little more complicated than that. Whitetails are not like elk or other cervids in that they breed lots and lots of does every year. As everyone knows, the vast majority of does come into heat during a 7-10 day window. In that time, a buck will chase and follow a single doe for up to 48 hours waiting for her to come in heat, and then breed her repeatedly before moving on to the next doe. It doesn't leave much time to hit a whole bunch of does. The does, will, of course, come into heat every 28 days until she is bred.
Anyway, having higher doe numbers later in the season causes does to go unbred the first cycle, leading to late breeding, etc. This causes other problems. And saying all this, it still doesn't matter if you can't kill them early, kill them later. Just saying it's better to kill as many as you can as early as you can.
As no colors said, studies have shown that orphaned bucks tend to have a higher likelihood of staying in original home range.
This post was edited on 9/23/17 at 8:05 am
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:08 am to Purple Spoon
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Therefor if you are looking to thin your herd of does, kill old dry does or young ones.
A doe is a doe is a doe. If you're trying to thin the herd, you kill does. All does. 50 pounders to 150 pounders. And there is no such thing as an old dry doe. The only way a doe is dry is if she went unbred (not very likely), or was bred very early and had weaned her fawn long before deer season, or she was bred very late, and aborted fawn(s) due to being preggo during very stressful times in the summer. The oldest wild doe on record died at 23 years old and produced fawns every year of her life.
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