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Captains license Needed?

Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:22 pm
SO I know a guy who opened up a small business, for tax reasons only, because you can claim losses for up to 5 years or something like that and gets a dam good chunk of change back every year.

What I was thinking of doing is opening a Fishing Guide Service. My question is- Is a captains license needed to charter/ guide fish. I was told you dont but i dont believe it. I was also told that charter and Guiding are different. Can someone help me out?
Posted by KG6
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:23 pm to
I just want a captain's license so I can buy cheap costas and have people call me captain.

ETA: I do think you need it and it's not an easy thing to get. I think you have to have a good bit of boat time under another captain before you can even take the classes.
This post was edited on 5/7/14 at 4:25 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:24 pm to
Inland lakes I don't think so
Posted by TexasTiger01
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:24 pm to
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cheap costas


???? Tell me more....
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

Is a captains license needed to charter/ guide fish.


Not sure but guides advertise if they are licensed
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:25 pm to
Yes, you have to have at lease a 6 pack license. No matter a guide or charter.
Posted by CBDTigerFan
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:27 pm to
You need your 6pk license at least it takes a while to get its not too hard though
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

6 pack license


Explain?
is this always carring at least a 6 pack at all times?
Posted by KG6
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:29 pm to
Charter captains can get with Costa and be a dealer for them. They get them at cost just like a store would. Otherwise, I believe you need a brick and mortar store.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:30 pm to
I have quite alot of time on the water, but Im guessing it would have to be documented some how.
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

I do think you need it and it's not an easy thing to get.


40 hour course.

quote:

I think you have to have a good bit of boat time under another captain before you can even take the classes.



Used to be 300 days at sea on the books. Don't know if they changed it. But you can take the class before your book is done.

At one time, I had a 100ton license. Had to give it up due to my health.

Also, you have to have First aide and CPR up to date when applying.
This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 2:53 am
Posted by Double-Rig
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:32 pm to
yes you need a license to guide.

Actual guides who do it for a living really hate guys who do it for "tax purposes".

It really devalues what they do.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:34 pm to
You also can't win the star
Posted by Itismemc
LA
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:40 pm to
We were going to get the granddad to do this, because we always came to town to fish with him and we wouldn't have to spend money on out of state licenses. Couldn't pass the test.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:41 pm to
I believe it would devalue any field that you go in for tax purposes only. but I would not be taking their customers away so I don't believe it would affect them
Posted by hogdaddy
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:49 pm to

LINK

License Requirements

The USCG Operator of Uninspected Passenger Vessels (OUPV/Six-pack Captain's License) allows the holder to carry up to six paying passengers on uninspected vessels up to 100 gross tons (about 75-90 feet long). These are usually smaller vessels that normally engage in charter fishing, SCUBA diving, or tour cruises. As such, these vessels are limited to six paying passengers plus crew-hence the term "Six-pack." The OUPV License is issued in three forms:

OUPV Inland License: The OUPV Inland license is restricted to operation shoreward of the boundary line, excluding the Great Lakes. As a general rule, the U.S. Boundary Line follows coastal shorelines and across the entrances to small bays, inlets, and rivers. This license is valid on uninspected vessels to 100 gross tons.

•This license requires at least 360 days of Documented Experience in the operation of vessels, with 90 of the 360 days occurring in the last three years. Experience gained prior to 15 years of age may not be counted.


•The Six-pack Inland License can be upgraded to a Near Coastal License once 90 days experience seaward of the U.S. Boundary has been achieved.


OUPV Great Lakes & Inland: 360 total with at least 90 days service on the Great Lakes.

OUPV Near Coastal: This license is valid on vessels up to 100 gross tons and out to 100 nautical miles.

The OUPV Near Coastal License also requires at least 360 days of documented experience in the operation of vessels, 90 of which must be gained seaward of the boundary line. Ninety of the 360 days must be in the last three years. Experience gained prior to the age of 15 will not be counted.

Note: Sea Service experience can be counted on your own vessel. A Small Vessel Sea Service Form and proof of ownership are required. Experience on other people's vessels can also be counted. In this instance, to verify experience claimed and vessel details, a completed Sea Service Form with the owner's signature must accompany the application.

Additional Requirements Include:
•Obtain a Transportation Workers Identification Credential (TWIC Card)
•Minimum age: 18 years old
•Pass a Physical Examination
•Take a Drug Test unless enrolled in a USCG - approved random drug testing program for at least 60 of the last 180 days, and with no failure or refusal to participate in a chemical test for dangerous drugs.
•CPR/First Aid training
•Provide Three Character References
•Completion of Mariners Learning System™ USCG-approved OUPV/Six-pack online course
•Completed USCG Original License Application Package

No testing at the USCG Regional Exam Centers is necessary. All testing is done at our facilities.

Upon successful completion of the Mariners Learning System™ online OUPV course, the student studies the materials and takes a proctored exam at one of our Coast Guard approved testing sites. Once the student passes our multiple choice exam, he or she will receive a Mariners Learning System™ certificate recognized by the United States Coast Guard. Simply submit, within one year, the original certificate along with your application package and applicable fees to the USCG Regional Exam Center. Upon their approval of your package, they will send you your original License.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 4:57 pm to
that about sums it up. But what do you call documented time at sea? how does one go about doing this
Posted by hogdaddy
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 5:08 pm to
Form CG-719S Small Vessel Sea Service Form

Click on the link at the bottom of you screen you will see a button to open or to save. Press the open button. You should have a PDF file open on your screen.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13356 posts
Posted on 5/7/14 at 5:21 pm to
yeah you need a license.

Although I know some people that work with Charter captains apparently think its legal that if they are working for a Charter captain it is legal for them to also Charter people
Posted by Come2Conquer
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/7/14 at 11:09 pm to
When I went for my 500-ton years ago at Houston Marine, there were a handful of guys there trying to get their 6-packs.

Dead easy if you can simply pay attention & regurgitate the material. 6-pack guys don't even have to do chart plotting; the test is a simple mix of deck & nav general along with some rules-of-the-road.
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