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Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:57 am to Ole Geauxt
Morning bubba.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:58 am to thedice20
quote:OK. Go cut some grass with monofilament using your hands.
The concept is the same.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 9:59 am to AlxTgr
quote:
other than achieving rake
But this would affect alot though, no?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:00 am to Langston
quote:Makes penetration easier, but adds nothing to cut. That's why I avoid hard shoulder angles on heads.
But this would affect alot though, no?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:01 am to AlxTgr
quote:
OK. Go cut some grass with monofilament using your hands.
wot?
I am not trying to get into a pissing match. I seriously want to know if my thought process is flawed regarding this...
I honestly dont know where you are getting at...
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:01 am to AlxTgr
Im a student, not trying to add anything useful. Just trying to use common sense and learn something. 
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:09 am to AlxTgr
All I'm saying is, they cut the same amount of stuff. There is the same amount of cutting going on with each one. Just because it looks more destructive doesn't mean that it is.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:09 am to thedice20
It has always been my thought that the cleaner the cut, the longer it take for the blood to clot against the damaged fibers...
Again the more important factor is shot placement, but we arent discussing this.
Again the more important factor is shot placement, but we arent discussing this.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:10 am to thedice20
Pushing an arrow through a deer vs hitting it with one going 280fps.
The monofilament thing was a weedeater comparison.
The monofilament thing was a weedeater comparison.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:12 am to thedice20
quote:You'll go to classes. Some old codger with have a box with a bunch of rubber bands stretched across it. he'll push a dull set of blades through and it won't cut much. He'll then push a razor sharp set though. It'll cut many more.
I honestly dont know where you are getting at...
Problem is, the head is not passing through a deer at 2 mph. Apples to coconuts. Just like mono will not cut grass at 2 mph. Sling a not so razor sharp set of blades through something and they will cut very well. Now, I'm not saying one should get their dremel out and dull their blades. I just think the razor sharp mantra is a bit over done.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:13 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
Pushing an arrow through a deer vs hitting it with one going 280fps.
The monofilament thing was a weedeater comparison.
I know, but i am trying to get him to engage.
I use echo's "edged" weedeating line for a cleaner cut... btw
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:15 am to thedice20
i havent read closely, but saw stuff about sharpness, ect..
ok,, i believe a sharp broadhead is better than a dull one.. that being said, i have killed as many as 3 or 4 deer with the same spitfire by just cleaning out hair, mud, etc., washing with hot water and pushing them back in. Alot depends on what it hit, lack of bones,etc., what it stuck in on the other side, rocks, etc..
I believe shot placement/angle is THE MOST IMPORTANT aspect in bow hunting..
I believe that most all of todays fixed and mechanical heads do a sufficient job.
I believe that a hit that produces lots of blood can produce very little blood on what looks like the same shot.
I believe that lots of shots are too high in the zone, and doesn't bleed that much, broadhead gets blamed.
I believe it is better to hit low than high with any broadhead, assuming there is a pass through.
I believe that my fangers are getting stiff and tard.
ok,, i believe a sharp broadhead is better than a dull one.. that being said, i have killed as many as 3 or 4 deer with the same spitfire by just cleaning out hair, mud, etc., washing with hot water and pushing them back in. Alot depends on what it hit, lack of bones,etc., what it stuck in on the other side, rocks, etc..
I believe shot placement/angle is THE MOST IMPORTANT aspect in bow hunting..
I believe that most all of todays fixed and mechanical heads do a sufficient job.
I believe that a hit that produces lots of blood can produce very little blood on what looks like the same shot.
I believe that lots of shots are too high in the zone, and doesn't bleed that much, broadhead gets blamed.
I believe it is better to hit low than high with any broadhead, assuming there is a pass through.
I believe that my fangers are getting stiff and tard.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:15 am to AlxTgr
Sharp blades will give you better penetration. That's the only purpose of it as far as I know. If the bow was strong enough incredibly dull blades would probably frick a deer up worse. Push and smash and tear and drag some shite through instead of just clean cutting.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:17 am to AlxTgr
[quote]Problem is, the head is not passing through a deer at 2 mph. Apples to coconuts. Just like mono will not cut grass at 2 mph. Sling a not so razor sharp set of blades through something and they will cut very well. Now, I'm not saying one should get their dremel out and dull their blades. I just think the razor sharp mantra is a bit over done.[/quote]
Some may over do it.. I am not debating that.
I just think there is such a fine line in recovering a wounded deer Vs. not recovering it, that any chance you get to tip the scales in your favor you should do it.(not saying you dont)
In my mind the sharper the blade = the cleaner the cut= the longer it bleeds = more blood on the ground...
Some may over do it.. I am not debating that.
I just think there is such a fine line in recovering a wounded deer Vs. not recovering it, that any chance you get to tip the scales in your favor you should do it.(not saying you dont)
In my mind the sharper the blade = the cleaner the cut= the longer it bleeds = more blood on the ground...
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:19 am to Ole Geauxt
quote:
i believe a sharp broadhead is better than a dull one.. that being said, i have killed as many as 3 or 4 deer with the same spitfire by just cleaning out hair, mud, etc., washing with hot water and pushing them back in.
boom
Oh, and I adopt the Geauxt's list of beliefs.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:19 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
Push and smash and tear and drag some shite through instead of just clean cutting.
Higher opportunity for the blood to clot more quickly.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:20 am to thedice20
So a clean cut heals slower than a tear?
I'm no doctor
I'm no doctor
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:21 am to Ole Geauxt
quote:
I believe that most all of todays fixed and mechanical heads do a sufficient job.
I believe that a hit that produces lots of blood can produce very little blood on what looks like the same shot.
I believe that lots of shots are too high in the zone, and doesn't bleed that much, broadhead gets blamed.
I believe it is better to hit low than high with any broadhead, assuming there is a pass through.
I believe that my fangers are getting stiff and tard.
i agree with all this my frein
Posted on 10/23/12 at 10:21 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
So a clean cut heals slower than a tear?
I'm no doctor
yessir
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