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re: Broadheads: Which ones shoot the same as field tips?
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:03 pm to 2drunk2care
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:03 pm to 2drunk2care
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I'm a grim reaper man myself and I have seen what they will do at 25 yards.
I blew a half-dollar size hole through a doe at 20 yards this weekend. Those reapers are bad news
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:33 pm to Junior23
They all do if your bow is tuned perfectly. As you get farther away from perfect tuning your choices narrow down big time with fixed blades.
Most mechanicals will shoot close to field tips.
A few fixed blades that are pretty forgiving are slick tricks, G5 montecs, and Hellrazors.
A few fixed blades that are very effective but not very forgiving are muzzy, thunderhead, and any of the big huge delta-shaped hatchet looking things from hell.
Most mechanicals will shoot close to field tips.
A few fixed blades that are pretty forgiving are slick tricks, G5 montecs, and Hellrazors.
A few fixed blades that are very effective but not very forgiving are muzzy, thunderhead, and any of the big huge delta-shaped hatchet looking things from hell.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 3:38 pm to Junior23
Did you shoot a broadhead followed by a field point to make sure it was the broadheads fault it veered so severly?
Posted on 10/22/12 at 4:12 pm to 4X4DEMON
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Did you shoot a broadhead followed by a field point to make sure it was the broadheads fault it veered so severly?
I did. I shot a slick trick then a field tip then a slick trick and the broadheads were to the right and the field tip was in the circle where I was aiming.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 4:21 pm to Junior23
If your bow won't shoot slick tricks the same as field points you should probably try mechanicals or paper-tune your bow if you want to stick with fixed blades.
A bow that is slightly out of tune is going to sling fixed blades all over the place. You can move your sight, but you may still get the occasional rouge arrow. I wouldn't risk that. Just my opinion.
A bow that is slightly out of tune is going to sling fixed blades all over the place. You can move your sight, but you may still get the occasional rouge arrow. I wouldn't risk that. Just my opinion.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 4:34 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Aight man I appreciate it. I'm going to take it to a guy I know that messes around with bows and let him take a look at it.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 4:42 pm to Junior23
I shoot Thunderheads, and since I tuned my bow to my new string, I'm shooting within an inch of my field points.
My buddy shoots the muzzy 4 blades and his are also less than an inch away from his field tips. They passed clean through the shoulder of a hog a 20 yards, too...
If you're having trouble, look up broadhead tuning. I don't even waste my time with paper tuning...
My buddy shoots the muzzy 4 blades and his are also less than an inch away from his field tips. They passed clean through the shoulder of a hog a 20 yards, too...
If you're having trouble, look up broadhead tuning. I don't even waste my time with paper tuning...
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 10/22/12 at 7:43 pm to Junior23
I like 3-blade fixed blades, and NAP Thunderheads are the ones I'm going to stick with for a while. I tried Muzzy MX-3 broadheads last year and didn't really care for them. I know some people swear by them, I got more consistent arrow flight with my Thunderheads.
6-pack for $34.99 last I checked on Amazon. I bought a pack of three and some replacement blades a while back, but I'll probably stock up before next season sometime.
6-pack for $34.99 last I checked on Amazon. I bought a pack of three and some replacement blades a while back, but I'll probably stock up before next season sometime.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 7:45 pm to EMP40 LSU
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If you're having trouble, look up broadhead tuning. I don't even waste my time with paper tuning...
This. I don't have the time, nor the patience, to paper tune my arrows. I started tweaking the arrow rest a little and that did the trick.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 7:47 pm to brad8504
I love paper tuning, then walk back.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:42 pm to Junior23
My two cents.
Used the old rocket mechanicals way back when. They were great on a broadside shot but less than stellar on angled shots.
I used to swear by the fixed broadheads.Three years ago I hit two different Pope and Young class bucks in three days. The first was a bit high and back due to the arrow getting a slight kick from a vine I didn't see. Liver shot. Trailed deer for over 400 yards. Lost trail in stuff so thick a rabbit would get scared. Next day tropical storm floods whole bottom and washed him away, if indeed he was still there.
Two days later nail a 10 pt following a hot doe from 8 steps. Steep angle , but the shot looked to go in this side lung high nd should have laced offside lung at bottom. Broadhead must have caught offside rib bone square and didn't penetrate other side. This was with Rocky Mtn. 100 grain 3 blades. Deer made it onto next lease (which is owned by a nutcase and who refuses to let us trail deer onto his property). Deer made it 130 plus yds to get to this property.
Two arrows, two P&Y's gone. Fixed broadheads.
Two years ago I switch to 2-blade Rages.
Since taken two P&Y's and one 120 class. Both the 120 class and the Pope 10 pt were the exact same shot as the 10 pt that got off the property the year before. High entry angle close shots that double lunged and hit offside ribs. No penetration out backside. Difference is both the deer hit with the Rage went less than 50 yards and BOTH died on a dead run. My best friend heard the 120 go down and said he never moved a muscle after hitting the ground. 130 I killed last year was a double lung that went 47 yds and went down within sight. Never moved an inch after hitting the ground.
Moral of the story. I have three deer on the wall taken with the Rage. If I had switched to them a year earlier I would have TWO MORE Pope and Youngs on the wall at home due to their ability to kill QUICKER with the massive amount of tissue they cut over your typical fixed blade.
I won't be switching back anytime soon, thats for sure.
Used the old rocket mechanicals way back when. They were great on a broadside shot but less than stellar on angled shots.
I used to swear by the fixed broadheads.Three years ago I hit two different Pope and Young class bucks in three days. The first was a bit high and back due to the arrow getting a slight kick from a vine I didn't see. Liver shot. Trailed deer for over 400 yards. Lost trail in stuff so thick a rabbit would get scared. Next day tropical storm floods whole bottom and washed him away, if indeed he was still there.
Two days later nail a 10 pt following a hot doe from 8 steps. Steep angle , but the shot looked to go in this side lung high nd should have laced offside lung at bottom. Broadhead must have caught offside rib bone square and didn't penetrate other side. This was with Rocky Mtn. 100 grain 3 blades. Deer made it onto next lease (which is owned by a nutcase and who refuses to let us trail deer onto his property). Deer made it 130 plus yds to get to this property.
Two arrows, two P&Y's gone. Fixed broadheads.
Two years ago I switch to 2-blade Rages.
Since taken two P&Y's and one 120 class. Both the 120 class and the Pope 10 pt were the exact same shot as the 10 pt that got off the property the year before. High entry angle close shots that double lunged and hit offside ribs. No penetration out backside. Difference is both the deer hit with the Rage went less than 50 yards and BOTH died on a dead run. My best friend heard the 120 go down and said he never moved a muscle after hitting the ground. 130 I killed last year was a double lung that went 47 yds and went down within sight. Never moved an inch after hitting the ground.
Moral of the story. I have three deer on the wall taken with the Rage. If I had switched to them a year earlier I would have TWO MORE Pope and Youngs on the wall at home due to their ability to kill QUICKER with the massive amount of tissue they cut over your typical fixed blade.
I won't be switching back anytime soon, thats for sure.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:50 pm to AlxTgr
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I love paper tuning, then walk back.
This may sound crazy to some, but I don't have the money to spend on new arrows or new vanes from damage caused by shooting groups, so I shoot my hunting arrows one at a time.
I just draw a rough sketch of the target face and record where each arrow hits.
That's with broadheads. I'll shoot groups with field tips and hope I don't Robin Hood any of them--done it once with some cheap arrows and got over the "cool" factor not long after. I'll re-fletch as needed because a pack of vanes is way cheaper than another pack of arrows.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 10/22/12 at 9:55 pm to AUTimbo
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the massive amount of tissue they cut over your typical fixed blade.
2" of blade on a 2" rage
2" of blade on a fixed 1" diameter 4 blade.
Not trying to argue with you, just saying it's a common misconception that rage has more cutting edge than a fixed blade.
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:08 pm to Junior23
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So I went with the slick tricks and needless to say they did not shoot like field tips. They shot probably a foot to the right.
What are the specs of your setup. I would bet big $ that your arrows are underspined. Tell us your bow's IBO, arrow spine, arrow length, and broadhead weight.
An arrow hitting right of your field tips (if you're right handed) is a symptom of underspined arrows.
This post was edited on 10/22/12 at 10:10 pm
Posted on 10/22/12 at 10:10 pm to Raz4back
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arrows are underspined
Very possible
Posted on 10/23/12 at 5:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I see what you're saying about a 4 blade having the same cutting area but I believe the wider area that the mechanical provides makes a difference.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 6:13 am to BarDTiger81
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I see what you're saying about a 4 blade having the same cutting area but I believe the wider area that the mechanical provides makes a difference.
That's why i shoot 2-3/4" cut
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