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re: Broadhead Tuning. Did I mess up? *Update-Kinda

Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:28 am to
Posted by beHop
Landmass
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:28 am to
You're probably right.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:31 am to
Nice beaver
Posted by beHop
Landmass
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:32 am to
I thought it was a really big otter. I must be losing my mind.
Posted by Coomdaddy
KY
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:45 am to
Congrats on the new Obsession. Great bows!
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:48 am to
quote:

I'm shooting them well. Stacking arrows at 30 and 40 and very serviceable groups at 50 and 60 (not planning on taking a shot at 60-just like to practice back there).


AlX wasn't being a dick, but I will be.

You really that dumb to think you need to change something on your bow if you are grouping at 50-60 yards? Do you really think all broadheads and field points are going to fly exactly the same? Do you even aerodynamics bro? I think you just wanted to come show off your new bow. It is very nice. You should be happy with it. I hope you kill a big one.

I may have misread your post though. If you are planning on hunting with the field points, you should adjust your sight.
Posted by beHop
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:52 am to


The only thing I really dislike is their "Affliction-esque" branding strategy. Whoever came up with that logo has at least one tribal tattoo. Probably several.



Posted by beHop
Landmass
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 7:58 am to
Damn man. I just want to practice with FPs and not have to shoot broadheads all the time. And I see it as a challenge. It would be really cool to do if possible.

quote:

 think you just wanted to come show off your new bow


I only posted pictures because someone asked to see it. I couldn't care less if you like it or not. No offense.


ETA: those of you who had genuine advice/ tips and understood what I was going for, thanks.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 8:07 am
Posted by arbe25
Member since Sep 2017
388 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:28 am to
It would bother me as well. It would not take you an hour or so to have the field points and broadheads hitting the same. Just move the rest opposite of where the broadheads are hitting. The key is very, I mean very small adjustments, until fp and bh come together. Then resight bow.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:34 am to
quote:

ETA: those of you who had genuine advice/ tips and understood what I was going for, thanks.
You asked questions that could be answered with yes/no. No one was being a dick.

You just illustrated why I switched from Thunderheads and Muzzys as soon as I found Steelheads. It just was not worth the hassle, especially considering the practice issue and the fact that I like to shoot rabbits/squirrels as well as deer.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:36 am to
I edited the OP

Posted by arbe25
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:37 am to
Also, do you spin test your broadheads when you attach to arrow. I will try every arrow/broadhead combination to get several that spin absolutely true without any wobble or vibration. The good thing about slick tricks is you can usually turn the o-ring until you get it just right.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:41 am to
Kind of? I don't think I spin test it properly though. I put to the BH on and give it a twirl on my finger or the truck bed cover and roll with it.
Posted by arbe25
Member since Sep 2017
388 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:51 am to
Tip of index finger is fine. Not sure spinning on truck bed would tell you anything. Keep spinning different bh on different arrows and you will quickly realize that some wobble more or less and some spin so true that you can't even tell the arrow is spinning.

I used to do this on mechanicals as well, works just as well.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 8:56 am to
Regardless, that's something I need to do more often. Thanks

What are you shooting now?
Posted by arbe25
Member since Sep 2017
388 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:06 am to
Slick trick 100 gr magnums. i'm not sure i'll ever shoot a different broadhead, as long as they make 'em.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:11 am to
The fact that the broad heads are grouping tells me spinning is not going to change anything. Your inserts and heads are probably fine. There is just some minor tuning issue changing the flight of the broad head arrows. You can sometimes fix it easily, or you can chase it for weeks and never find it. Hell it could be arrow spine.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14536 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:14 am to
quote:

Hell it could be arrow spine.


This would really bug the shite out of me if that's the case. I told the tech what I'd be shooting and he insisted I was getting the proper specs.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 9:16 am
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:47 am to
i wouldn’t paper tune. Do a walk back tune and that should get you close. When tuned my bow has a slight tail right tear. This is not uncommon with a longer draw length. Remember that the longer the arrow the farther it has to travel before it is flying true. IMO paper tuning is good to get you within 1/8 to 1/16 on your centershot, but a walk back tune is needed to be 100% precise.

Another thing to keep in mind is that very subtle changes in form can greatly affect broad head flight at the speed you are shooting. I switched to mechanicals because of this (I do still tune with fixed heads). Rarely do you have the opportunity to maintain perfect form in a hunting situation.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 9:54 am
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21692 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:50 am to
Guys, I don't care what anyone says, it's not always possible to get a FP and BH to hit the same point. Broadheads and field points are not the same shape. Even if they're the same weight, having a longer point of the same weight will make the spine of your arrow flex slightly more. Depending on the type of broadhead you're shooting, aerodynamics are probably somewhat different as well. With mechanical BH's, the difference probably won't be much, but trying to tune it out is a waste of time. Tune your bow with the broadheads you'll use for hunting, and adjust your sight to hit where you aim. Pick one arrow to use as a practice arrow, and don't use the others except on deer (shoot them all a couple of times to make sure you don't have any wild ones, then put them in your hunting quiver). This is the way it's been done since sights were invented.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Pick one arrow to use as a practice arrow, and don't use the others except on deer (shoot them all a couple of times to make sure you don't have any wild ones, then put them in your hunting quiver). This is the way it's been done since sights were invented.




Precisely what I did. Guess I know it will work. I just want it to work "more better."
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