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Boca Bearings sale

Posted on 12/30/20 at 2:01 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 2:01 pm
Getting into this reel repair stuff and have been upgrading bearings. Boca has 35% off now with ROLLVEMBER35 code.
Now's a good time for you Calcutta users to replace that shitty plastic bushing with a ceramic bearing set.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 2:36 pm to
you work on old ambassadors, baw?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 12/30/20 at 3:01 pm to
I have no problem giving it a try. Bring what you got over.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 12/30/20 at 3:15 pm to
I need an anti reverse bearing changed on my flounda reel.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:14 am to
Those are probably available everywhere for that Korean clone junk you fish
Posted by BeerThirty
Red Stick
Member since May 2017
898 posts
Posted on 6/30/21 at 5:49 am to
Sorry for the late bump on this thread, Alex, but I was cleaning up my fishing stuff and found a few older Calcuttas that I don't use and haven't used in a few years (switched to the low profile Curado). I wanted to get them back up to speed to either use or sell. What would you recommend going through them and replacing, after I give them a good cleaning? Thanks for any info baw!
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 6/30/21 at 7:01 am to
Feel = gears and distance = bearings. With Shimano, the existing bearings are probably really good. All you have to do is swish them around in lighter fluid. Gears were easily found by me on eBay. I even found a set that increased gear ratio. There's a video on YouTube of complete tear down that's helpful. Guy is from La. Hell, he's probably going to be laughing at this post later.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 6/30/21 at 7:41 pm to
If I put them Bocas in my shimanos will they cast further?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21754 posts
Posted on 6/30/21 at 8:26 pm to
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If I put them Bocas in my shimanos will they cast further?


Probably not unless they’ve got some corrosion. There are a few YouTube videos where people do distance tests, and with a good reel (therefore good bearings) there doesn’t seem to be a significant difference. I don’t think I ever saw the Bocas do worse than stock but you’re not going to be throwing 20% further.

I do like replacing bushings with bearings when possible; I think I added 3 to my Stradic. I doubt it helps me catch more fish but I like to tinker.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16552 posts
Posted on 6/30/21 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

I put them Bocas in my shimanos will they cast further?


I haven't noticed a ton of distance gained. I am able to cast lighter lures better though which is a nice benefit.
This post was edited on 6/30/21 at 8:58 pm
Posted by Tuco Pacifico
Member since May 2013
374 posts
Posted on 6/30/21 at 10:39 pm to
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I need an anti reverse bearing changed on my flounda reel.


My advice would be to order a whole new side plate. Don’t know what brand you have, but I had one go bad on a revo. The part number matched any year 5500 that has anti reverse. Abu will sell you a new side with the bearing pressed in, but can’t sell just the bearing. I called several local repair shops but no one had it in stock. Then I tracked down the German manufacturer and found a bearing outfit that carries their brand, but would only sell in boxes of x amount for around $400. I ended up buying a 5500 plate with the bearing in it on EBay and now the reel is less shitty than it was before but not like new.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17317 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 6:57 am to
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I do like replacing bushings with bearings when possible; I think I added 3 to my Stradic. I doubt it helps me catch more fish but I like to tinker.


This is by far the biggest boost to a reel you can make. Shimano bearings are high quality, but what separates the price points are country of origin (tolerances and QC) and in the higher end stuff they put a bearing every single place something rotates. The Japan made reels are on another level, but a curado will become smooth as silk with bearings in the the handle knobs and on the worm gear.
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2094 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:39 am to
Save your money. Boca is hype, very little performance. I’ve done a lot of testing. Fast Eddy even outperformed Boca.

ZPI and hedgehog are the best. But not always easy to find. VXB are also very good.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81622 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Save your money. Boca is hype, very little performance. I’ve done a lot of testing. Fast Eddy even outperformed Boca.

I have not noticed any different between multiple brands. As I said in one of the posts above, the stock Shimanos do great once cleaned. When I made the OP, I had just started fooling with this stuff. I'd rather buy gears than bearings anyway.
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2094 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:29 am to
quote:

have not noticed any different between multiple brands.


Depends on a lot of things. But there’s definitely brand differences in noise, race materials/tolerances etc. that cause longevity issues, how well or not the rubber/metal seals work, are the seals removable, how they hold up if under/over oiled, resistance to salt, etc. etc.

Look up The Tackle Trap. Bryan (Spanky) is prolly the best in the biz at reel knowledge. He posts on TackleTour and BBCBoards. I also call him from time to time about anything reel related,

IMO - ceramic hybrids are the best option if you marsh fish. Fast Eddy is the best in the $3-5 range. VXB the best $10 range. And ZPI and Hedgehog the best $15 range.

quote:

I’d rather buy gears


Smart.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21754 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:43 am to
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The Japan made reels are on another level


I currently have 3 reels that were made in Japan; an older ~$120 Citica E, from when Shimano made most stuff in Japan I guess, a 2 year old Luvais and a brand new Zillion. The Citica was always good but not a standout, but the 2 newer Japanese Daiwas are definitely in another league. The Zillion is by far the best baitcaster I've ever tossed, and while it's also the nicest one I've owned I have thrown some high dollar stuff that a fishing buddy has. I'd take the Zillion over everything I've personally fished, and I just hope like hell it's saltwater safe because no way I'm not using it on my kayak.

Now without their American counterparts to compare them to I don't know how much of that is their price point and how much is their country of origin. Maybe all Luvais and 2021 Zillion reels are that smooth. It's convinced me to at least give heavy consideration to JDM reels next time I buy.
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2094 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:51 am to
The new Zillion SV TW G is NOT made in Japan.

You have to buy the Zillion SV TW directly from Japan to get the Made in Japan version.

The JDM version is awesome. Just wish the frame was a bit more compact. It’s not the most comfortable for roll casting.

I send a LOT of my paycheck to Japan

This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 9:56 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21754 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:54 am to
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You have to buy the Zillion SV TW directly from Japan to get the Made in Japan version.



I did, I think on your (or someone here's) recommendation. When I bought the Luvais the Japanese model was the only one available, but now the ones on Digitaka show Malaysia.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17317 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:55 am to
I’m not talking specifically about JDM or Japanese companies, but between Shimano and Daiwa there’s a price point where they go from made in Korea/Singapore/Malaysia to actually stamped made in Japan. Even some JDM reels won’t be. In my experience, the ones made in the actual Japanese factories are a big step up. Chronarch is the lowest price point I know of with Shimano. Out of the box it will sling, while I’ve had 8-10 different curados over the years that are solid and great reels with a little break-in/tweeking, but you can feel little differences and notice some variability within the same model. Some will come packed to the brim with grease, some need the bearings flushed, some don’t, etc. Chronarch was flawless and feels as good today as when I bought it.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21754 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:59 am to
quote:

I’m not talking specifically about JDM or Japanese companies, but between Shimano and Daiwa there’s a price point where they go from made in Korea/Singapore/Malaysia to actually stamped made in Japan. Even some JDM reels won’t be.


We're on the same page. One reason I like Digitaka is that they'll typically show the underside of the foot in their pictures. And you're right; as I said above, the Luvais used to be made in Japan, now even the JDM version is from Malaysia. I wish I'd bought a couple of them when I did.
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