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Anybody here sold timber?
Posted on 4/12/20 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 4/12/20 at 1:45 pm
I know it depends on many variables but what are pines worth an acre right now? Have about 18 acres fairly thick with pines that are about 16-17 years old.
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Posted on 4/12/20 at 2:18 pm to lsualum2432
You will be hard pressed finding someone to come thin 18 acres for you. Maybe if there is an adjacent property that is in process of being logged, you may luck up and get them to log it
Small scale loggers are very few and far between now
Small scale loggers are very few and far between now
Posted on 4/12/20 at 2:29 pm to lsualum2432
16 to 17 yrs probably a first thinning. 18 acres is tough to do, costs too much to move. We keep a list of smaller tracts and try to contact when we are moving onto a nearby tract.
Too many variables to price. If it is wet weather ground you may get $10/11 a ton, avg 30 tons to acre. Summer ground we wont buy for more than $6/ton and have already bought enough for 2020 and 2021. Assume all this is pine, if hardwood.. $0. Mills aren't buying.
Too many variables to price. If it is wet weather ground you may get $10/11 a ton, avg 30 tons to acre. Summer ground we wont buy for more than $6/ton and have already bought enough for 2020 and 2021. Assume all this is pine, if hardwood.. $0. Mills aren't buying.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 2:47 pm to lsualum2432
Seems like it's usually around $800 an acre you profit from clear cutting, thinning would probably yield 1/3 of that.
You might be looking at 5K but you have to pay someone to cut it.
You might be looking at 5K but you have to pay someone to cut it.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 2:52 pm to geauxskeet
Geaux are you in that industry? Basically I’m not wanting to thin the property, I want the property cleared. Whatever is left when they are done I will pay to clear anyways so I want as much cut as possible. So this isn’t a property I’m trying to manage for timber.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 3:33 pm to lsualum2432
Hold off till after a flood or a hurricane, Price will be higher. With the economy the way it is now not to many homes being built
Posted on 4/12/20 at 3:50 pm to lsualum2432
I’ve done it before. In E Texas a few years ago I was getting $40/ton for pine and $70/ton for hardwoods hauling to mills near my property
Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:04 pm to lsualum2432
Your best bet is to give it to a logger and let him clear it for free. Like someone said, if the property next door is being cut, you might get $5-6 a ton for it. Which might be $200-500 per acre.
But if a logger has to move there to cut that small of a tract, then you won't get that price. Best you can realistically hope for is to get a good clean job done that leaves the property the way you want it.
But if a logger has to move there to cut that small of a tract, then you won't get that price. Best you can realistically hope for is to get a good clean job done that leaves the property the way you want it.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 4:29 pm to No Colors
I agree, that was originally my plan but a buddy mentioned I might could get some money. Thanks for info fellas!
Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:03 pm to lsualum2432
Might depend on location? If I read
Correctly you did not mention where
It’s at. Road frontage? Spring is wet time of year. Best time to sell. Keep trying. Good luck.
Correctly you did not mention where
It’s at. Road frontage? Spring is wet time of year. Best time to sell. Keep trying. Good luck.
Posted on 4/12/20 at 8:56 pm to lsualum2432
Was coming here to page NoColors. Heed his advice.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 12:04 am to lsualum2432
Been awhile.
Family had 50 acres clear cut in 1999 and 20 acres clear cut in 1999 and another 26 acres clear cut in 2003. I think we got the most in 99 something like $150,000 and another $20,000 in 2003.
120 acres thinned ( got $60,000 last time thinned) about every 20 years or so and another large tract of land hasn’t had a skidded, loader, or log truck on it since 1990.
We have a land man (timber estimator that used to work for willamette) that negotiates our timber with companies. He usually gets the best prices. Companies know he won’t cheat them or the land owners plus he is well respected.
Family had 50 acres clear cut in 1999 and 20 acres clear cut in 1999 and another 26 acres clear cut in 2003. I think we got the most in 99 something like $150,000 and another $20,000 in 2003.
120 acres thinned ( got $60,000 last time thinned) about every 20 years or so and another large tract of land hasn’t had a skidded, loader, or log truck on it since 1990.
We have a land man (timber estimator that used to work for willamette) that negotiates our timber with companies. He usually gets the best prices. Companies know he won’t cheat them or the land owners plus he is well respected.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:59 am to lsualum2432
You might be able to find someone with a chipper to come in and cut it. I sold 70 acres of 12 year old pine I wanted cleared. Only got 2 bucks a ton at the time but they cut the trees at the ground and chipped everything.. I had 4 lowboy trailers full of limbs left on 70 acres.. the little stumps rotted enough I rolled them out with a disc 2 years later..
Posted on 4/13/20 at 3:46 pm to lsualum2432
Start contacting foresters for estimates, when this is all over. Sure they are deemed non-essential but who knows. We got about 20k several years ago for thinning 40 acres
Posted on 4/13/20 at 4:43 pm to DaBeerz
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deemed nonessential
Most foresters and loggers I know are still working. Toilet paper is apparently in high demand
Posted on 4/13/20 at 5:56 pm to geauxskeet
quote:
if hardwood.. $0. Mills aren't buying.
Is this really true? I’d heard that a fair bit of the hardwood market was going to Asia but I’d never guess that it would collapse to that point.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:01 pm to Decisions
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hardwood.. $0. Mills aren't buying.
Is this really true
This is more of a local issue than a global one. In the past year the two biggest hardwood using paper mills in the are -- one at Port Hudson LA and another at Crossett AR -- both closed. Hardwood pulpwood is still good in Alabama and Texas. But there is a huge hole in the Ark-LA-Miss region where there is little to no market.
I know one Hardwood pulpwood chip mill in Mississippi that was paying $46 two years ago. And today it is paying $21. Assuming a Logging rate of $20, that means a landowner would get $26 per ton two years ago and will get $1 per ton today. That's quite the kick in the nuts.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 6:14 pm to The Torch
I seriously doubt 17 year old pine will bring $800 per acre.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:45 pm to No Colors
Does anybody know of any companies that would be willing to cut a small tract like this? I have no idea where to start
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:50 pm to lsualum2432
Following this thread. In a similar situation. Small tract, never been touched, mostly hardwoods.
Man that’s bad. Any suggestions on what to do in my case?
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I know one Hardwood pulpwood chip mill in Mississippi that was paying $46 two years ago. And today it is paying $21. Assuming a Logging rate of $20, that means a landowner would get $26 per ton two years ago and will get $1 per ton today. That's quite the kick in the nuts.
Man that’s bad. Any suggestions on what to do in my case?
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