re: Anybody do any point hunting?

I have been up to that Shark Tooth creek a couple time recently. My kids really enjoy that place, I plan on making another trip sometime soon.

I would guess you know of that place Noth of Tombigbee NF?

Ill admit im so jealous of all of yall with these collections.

I wonder if the supers small drain type creeks are better than the bigger ones that are 50-75 yards across with huge gravel bars

Here are a few pics I took of the points laying as I found em in the creek:

First point, first pic:



A little closer:



Gottem:



*FYI: always look in the main remaining flow of the water because that's amlost always the center of the strongest current no matter the water level.

2nd point, 1st pic. I hunted this stretch of creek that you see in the background, although I had already spotted the point by the time I took this pic (and you can too, it's visible):



Now standing over it:



Closer:



CLOSEEER:



Niiice:



*fyi: look on the raised, outer edges of the main flow where a point can get hung up- or just below it like the 2nd arrowhead was. Think like the water flows in high water events and how something like an arrowhead would tumble along with that flow and start looking for points there. You're looking for a needle in a haystack, and so high probability areas are just that. Even though it's a needle, it's a very common needle, and they're everywhere if you're looking:



Anyway, time to stop pissing away our time here on TD's. Back to work we go.

Me and you both; I love the intricacy of bird points. All those are great points, and the two on the right side of the arch are incredible; especially the last one and its coarse, wide serrations.

Duckdude,

I have heard of it, but that's about it. Is surface hunting allowed there? Or is the section you're talking about on some private land? I read about it years ago and some campground, but can't remember much else.

Reason I ask is that about permission is because in general (but NOT always) the professional archaeology community frowns upon recreational surface hunters- even on private land that they have permission to be on. That's not always the case, as there are some very helpful professionals that were responsible for me nose diving into the subject matter, but it is especially common with the fresh out of school "hero" types. I once had a young graduate tell me that I needed to leave the disturbed-by-develoment artifacts on my own land alone. Even though they, nor any other surface exposed artifact, offers much archeological value (that's usually, but not always true). They're not stratified any more and can't be related or associated with any meaningful conclusion (or in our case in MS & with arrowheads, a conclusion that's not already pretty well known).

Didn't matter though, he said I still needed to leave them alone; they belong to the professional archaeological community...

On public land it is illegal to collect artifacts on the surface (the "Jimmy Carter clause" has gotten alot of folks jailed and fined regarding lithic artifacts). I don't necessarily agree with it, partly because of the aforementioned uselessness of surface artifacts to archeology and partly because I hate big government and pompous arseholes, but it is what it is. If there weren't so many pot hunters who go and dig up pristine artifacts from stratified layers for the singular purpose of selling them for sometimes lots of money, then we might be looked at in a better light.

Or maybe not.

Also arrowhead hunting has become synonymous in some areas with crystal meth users. They go hand in hand: jack your senses up, go walk miles because you have to, and find items that are of value- or at least some of them.

Tldr: even though for the most part I think it's stupid, be careful where you pick up points or uncle sam will put the switch to your arse. That said, I hope that wherever you and your youngins go, you mop up on em! (Except for in my spots, then I hope you find nothing.)

We find plenty of teeth and a few flakes but no points (I have heard of points being found).

It is a public access to the creek and the shark teeth hunting is encouraged.

W. M. Browning Cretaceous Fossil Park

With your screen name I thought you might be familiar with the area around Tombibgee National Forrest

Gotcha. I'm aware of it but that's it. That's a little piece from my regular geographic stomping grounds nowadays.

Plus it's getting on over into Ala*ama, and we only go there to dump our trash, shoot road signs and beat up on Auburn women and football players.

If you don’t already, you should listen to some Tyler Childers, Banded Clovis would be your speed.

That’s amazing. Hell, I’d probably hang up hunting to do more.

That's the exact kinda stuff I think about every time I pick one up. It's the wonder of it all. Sure, the ancient artifact itself is cool, but it's the humanity of it that I relate to that gives me pause. Was it the same man? His brother? Grandson? Was he a good shot? What did he take aim at? Did he eat that night? How many kids did he have? It's a piece of that man's legacy, whomever he was.

Awesome pics btw. I love #1; especially because I love pics of the points as they are found when the first man in thousands of years sets his eyes on something that the last man worked so hard to make.

To think of all the history that has taken place since that man's belonging disappeared from the record up until the time it reappeared is mind boggling.