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Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:41 am to LSUdude3756
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We have a ton of birds but this year seems off.
Do you have trail cam pics of the birds on your lease recently?.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:46 am to Ron Cheramie
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the hens want to breed only with the boss hog and of he is killed too early it can have negative effects
Have they actually done this research? I know at one point Chamberlin and Collier were discussing and I may have read some information on it somewhere.
BTW, I agree with everything you wrote in your post.
I would even take it a step further. Outlaw blinds. When you take a turkeys ability to see away, he's toast and anyone can sit in one of these things on the edge of a chuff patch and kill every turkey on a property.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 10:58 am to Ron Cheramie
[link=(Personally think this is one reason the population is down and I wish gobbler decoys and fanning would be outlawed)]Personally think this is one reason the population is down and I wish gobbler decoys and fanning would be outlawed[/link]
I don't use a gobbler decoy or fan. I have one hen decoy and a funky chicken jake decoy. We killed 3 gobblers and put eyes on 12 more that were just as old and big. Pretty sure we didn't mess up any breeding, also saw that many or more jakes.
I don't use a gobbler decoy or fan. I have one hen decoy and a funky chicken jake decoy. We killed 3 gobblers and put eyes on 12 more that were just as old and big. Pretty sure we didn't mess up any breeding, also saw that many or more jakes.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:23 am to mtb010
Sorry wasn’t trying to direct that towards you. Texas Rios are a whole different animal.
A dumb animal
Texas Easterns are hurting bad as well
A dumb animal
Texas Easterns are hurting bad as well
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I don't use a gobbler decoy or fan.
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I have one hen decoy and a funky chicken jake decoy.
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jake decoy
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 11:24 am
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:31 am to geauxbrown
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Have they actually done this research?
Yes
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Outlaw blinds.
Upvote
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:33 am to Salmon
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not hearing birds gobble on the roost in the morning does not happen every year
This...
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I don't know if its due to Laura
Was covered with them during deer season... not sure about after the winter storm, though. I'm holding out hope that it'll turn on in a couple weeks.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:27 pm to LSUfanNkaty
We have been killing them pretty good. All but one were killed after 8:30am.
Heard a few on the limb this past weekend but none on the limb before that. They would start gobbling around 7:30 or 8
Heard a few on the limb this past weekend but none on the limb before that. They would start gobbling around 7:30 or 8
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:26 pm to geauxbrown
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Have they actually done this research?
Mike Chamberlain has researched this and discussed it in a few podcasts. The one he did with Meateater was a great listen in my opinion.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:59 pm to LSUdude3756
After off years in 2019 and 2020, the spot I hunt in North MS is loaded this year. I've never heard more turkey talk in my life as I did this past weekend. I don't know what the deal is, but we slaughtered them in 2017 and 2018, maybe needed a couple of years to rebound. If you don't kill them there between 3/15-3/28, then there is usually a lull while they're breeding hens until around 4/10, then it is on for another 10 or so days.
I have not been to my mom's in Greene County, AL yet to hunt, no idea how they're gobbling that way
I have not been to my mom's in Greene County, AL yet to hunt, no idea how they're gobbling that way
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:02 pm to tenfoe
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Have they actually done this research?
Yes
tenfoe, are you in the outdoor business? Good info and great post.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:08 pm to geauxbrown
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tenfoe, are you in the outdoor business?
Not necessarily. I hunt a lot. So much so that it sometimes jeopardizes my job, marriage, and financial well-being. But my occupation has little to do with the outdoors, other than sometimes I work outdoors.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:18 pm to Ron Cheramie
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Texas Rios are a whole different animal.
Very true. Yes, the Eastern numbers are down. When you buy a sportsmen package license in Texas you get 4 turkey tags, all 4 can be Rios but only one can be an Eastern.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:41 pm to tenfoe
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Not necessarily. I hunt a lot. So much so that it sometimes jeopardizes my job, marriage, and financial well-being.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:02 pm to tenfoe
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Not necessarily. I hunt a lot. So much so that it sometimes jeopardizes my job, marriage, and financial well-being. But my occupation has little to do with the outdoors, other than sometimes I work outdoors.
Ditto here. However, this Spring I won't get to Turkey hunt as much due to work and wife's knee surgery from a skiing mishap. A little compromise is cool this time. I will make it up come Dove, Teal, Duck/Goose and Deer seasons.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:28 pm to LSUdude3756
I haven’t been, but if tenfoe can’t make them gobble no one can.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 9:41 pm to tenfoe
Can confirm that tenfoe wears slacks and a button down to work.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 6:01 am to jimbeam
The hens seem to be still flocked up around me in north Florida, which means they aren’t in full breeding mode. Which means the Toms aren’t in full breeding mode, and therefore not gobbling yet fully.
People can shite on decoys, but decoys are as old as time. Indians used decoys and sticks and bows to hunt. If you want to outlaw stuff start with technology like guns, cell phones with gps, binoculars, etc. that give us more of an advantage in 200 years then biology can recover from. A rea Turkey fan is one of the oldest and easiest tricks to kill a bird in the history of hunting/ harvesting. I couldn’t disagree more on using them.
Eta: there’s also a difference between not hearing gobbles and not responding to calling due to not actively breeding/ calling yet. Some years like this year they just seem to start late, so many of the birds won’t respond to calling. Some days in other years due to weather or whatever they aren’t gobbling but if you get one to gobble they can often be worked. Same with this year, if you get one to gobble they can often be killed. But many just aren’t gobbling yet.
People can shite on decoys, but decoys are as old as time. Indians used decoys and sticks and bows to hunt. If you want to outlaw stuff start with technology like guns, cell phones with gps, binoculars, etc. that give us more of an advantage in 200 years then biology can recover from. A rea Turkey fan is one of the oldest and easiest tricks to kill a bird in the history of hunting/ harvesting. I couldn’t disagree more on using them.
Eta: there’s also a difference between not hearing gobbles and not responding to calling due to not actively breeding/ calling yet. Some years like this year they just seem to start late, so many of the birds won’t respond to calling. Some days in other years due to weather or whatever they aren’t gobbling but if you get one to gobble they can often be worked. Same with this year, if you get one to gobble they can often be killed. But many just aren’t gobbling yet.
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 6:09 am
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:17 am to jimbeam
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Can confirm that tenfoe wears slacks and a button down to work.
Not today. Just put my new pearl snaps on Headed to work after calling one up for a boy this morning. Only turkey we heard but he gobbled good.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:19 am to tenfoe
I killed this morning in SE AL. I agree with Chamberlain on some issues, but I don’t believe that the dominant bird is the only breeder. Silent gobblers get with hens all the time while “the boss” is doing his thing with other hens.
This is the last year you can kill 5 in AL. Dropping it to 4 next year, but they should make jakes illegal for adults in my opinion
This is the last year you can kill 5 in AL. Dropping it to 4 next year, but they should make jakes illegal for adults in my opinion
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