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re: Any carpenters in here? Building a workshop and have some questions.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:10 am to dreaux
Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:10 am to dreaux
Just found this detail
I could have open rafter design and just close up the space on top of the wall studs with like a 1x4?
I could have open rafter design and just close up the space on top of the wall studs with like a 1x4?
This post was edited on 9/30/12 at 1:33 am
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Posted on 9/30/12 at 1:36 am to dreaux
This one is actually better. But what the hell is frieze?
This post was edited on 9/30/12 at 1:37 am
Posted on 9/30/12 at 7:27 am to dreaux
It is what some call "bird blocking". Used at the edge of the trusses they solidify the roof and stabilize the truss/rafter system. You can vent them as necessary. Good to have in combo with hurricane strapping.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 9:51 am to canyon
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It is what some call "bird blocking". Used at the edge of the trusses they solidify the roof and stabilize the truss/rafter system. You can vent them as necessary. Good to have in combo with hurricane strapping.
So I run a 1x4 frieze between the rafters in front of the top plate or no?
This post was edited on 9/30/12 at 9:57 am
Posted on 9/30/12 at 9:56 am to dreaux
Which one is better.
This one?
Or this one?
This one?
Or this one?
Posted on 9/30/12 at 10:01 am to dreaux
How do you secure the joist to the top plate?
Posted on 9/30/12 at 10:09 am to dreaux
If you are trying to keep cost down nails can hold everything together. Those brackets get expensive quick...
This post was edited on 9/30/12 at 10:11 am
Posted on 9/30/12 at 10:29 am to wickowick
My thoughts exactly. I was looking at the price of these straps, and some are almost 1$ a piece. Just doing the math in my head was scary.
So if I don't use joist hangers for the foundation or hurricane ties for the rafters, how I nail them? With the floor joist, I could just go straight through the support beam into the joist with nails. But with the rafters, do I just toenail the joist to the top plate and nail the rafters to the joist?
So if I don't use joist hangers for the foundation or hurricane ties for the rafters, how I nail them? With the floor joist, I could just go straight through the support beam into the joist with nails. But with the rafters, do I just toenail the joist to the top plate and nail the rafters to the joist?
Posted on 9/30/12 at 10:38 am to dreaux
Now looking the hurricane tie I would use (the first one pictured), is only 0.84 cents. I am doing 2ft centers, there is 7 rafters. That is 14 ties total. I think that it's worth it there. Joist hangers for the floor (16 OC), would be much more expensive. The hangers by themselves are a lot more per each one.
Could I use 3 1/2 wood screws to secure the floor joist to the support beams?
Could I use screws instead of nails in the hurricane ties on the rafters?
Could I use 3 1/2 wood screws to secure the floor joist to the support beams?
Could I use screws instead of nails in the hurricane ties on the rafters?
Posted on 9/30/12 at 10:46 am to dreaux
Sorry been away...you can run the blocks in front. Also, see wicks comment below, but, even without the brackets, you should block it and nail back to each rafter.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 10:47 am to dreaux
Those things are not easy to nail due to space limitations, palm nailer works best...
Posted on 9/30/12 at 10:47 am to dreaux
No substitute for hangers/straps. As you say, not that many and personally I would come in hot with screws over nails unless you know someone with a nail gun and compressor.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 10:51 am to canyon
What blocks do I run in front? Where do they go? I have a compressor, I could probably spring for a palm nailer. However, I have a whole box of big arse wood screws and a dewalt impact driver.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 10:54 am to dreaux
Oh, you mean put blocks on the support beams and nail the floor joist to the blocks? I have already decieded on using the ties for the rafters.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 11:13 am to dreaux
Ahhhh.... Ok. My bad, thought we were still talking rafters.
Yes, you can block the flooring, but probably not necessary dependent on floor joist spacing. I can't remember, what is the spacing?
What size frame/support system you talking?
Yes, you can block the flooring, but probably not necessary dependent on floor joist spacing. I can't remember, what is the spacing?
What size frame/support system you talking?
Posted on 9/30/12 at 11:30 am to canyon
The shop I am building is 12x16. I am putting it on concrete pads with 2x12 support beams. I am running 2x6 floor joist 16" OC. The joist will be >6' a piece because of the middle beam.
Posted on 9/30/12 at 11:50 pm to dreaux
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Posted on 10/1/12 at 8:17 am to dreaux
You should be fine with the flooring system, shouldn't need additional blocking. With a support in the middle, and joists on 16", will be very solid.
Posted on 10/1/12 at 10:28 pm to dreaux
I scaled down my building to 10x12. My question is, do I need joist with every rafter? It's only a 10' span. Could I do a single slope with no ridge? I have been looking at a ton of plans and framing, and I swear no 2 are alike. I am leaning towards single slope at 22 degrees. I will run my joist 2 oc and put a 3 foot rise on the tall side and have it slope to the backside.
I DO NOT do well with a lot of choices.
I DO NOT do well with a lot of choices.
Posted on 10/1/12 at 10:33 pm to dreaux
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I DO NOT do well with a lot of choices.
Just draw out whatever looks right and get to cuttin
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