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Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:04 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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including the mystical fabled 10mm propelled by rainbows and unicorn farts
FIFY
Where else you think it gets the gas it needs to get up'n go?
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:27 pm to cdaniel76
Ahhh the greatest rd that never was...
Honorable Mention: 45 Glock Auto
Honorable Mention: 45 Glock Auto
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:28 pm to chrisman17
Except the 357sig is actually somewhat popular
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:34 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Hence, "Honorable Mention"
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:35 pm to chrisman17
I think it'll catch on before long. A couple of fed agencies use it I think.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:37 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
USSS dropped it about 4 years ago, it's been relegated to a few PDs. Ballistically speaking, it doesn't perform much better then today's 9mm +P+.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:39 pm to chrisman17
Downshift is about to talk about it's feeding prowess and how the necked down cartridge is more reliable.
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:40 pm to chrisman17
I like it better than the 9mm. Bottlenecking makes unlimited amounts of sense with APC calibers.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:47 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The bottleneck was a good idea... The problem is the neck is so short, bullet set back becomes a legitimate concern. It doesn't have the benefits of full length case tension on the bullet.
You literally get about 50-75 fps more from a 357 sig, and the trade off is ridiculous muzzle blast.
You literally get about 50-75 fps more from a 357 sig, and the trade off is ridiculous muzzle blast.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:49 pm to chrisman17
Yea it could definitely be improved.
I don't understand why all of them are not bottlenecked. Trying to cram a 357 bullet into a .40 hole makes way more sense than trying to cram a .40 bullet into a .41 hole.
I don't understand why all of them are not bottlenecked. Trying to cram a 357 bullet into a .40 hole makes way more sense than trying to cram a .40 bullet into a .41 hole.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The same can be said about you cramming your thing in a woman's hole. :rimshot:
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:56 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The 7.62x25 is an bottleneck pistol round that was designed correctly.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:59 pm to chrisman17
I do definitely agree though. I'd like to see more like that. It's designed right.
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:59 pm to chrisman17
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You literally get about 50-75 fps more from a 357 sig, and the trade off is ridiculous muzzle blast.
Muzzle blast is relative to pressure, right? The +P+ would give the same then on an arguably less stable platform.?
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The 9mm is a 35,000 psi, +P is 38,500 psi and +P+ is 40,000 psi. The 357 SIG is a 40,000 psi. Bullets of the same weight will approximate the same velocities in SIG and +P+. The difference is gun construction, all 9mm's will not handle +P+. All of the 357 SIG's are made to handle the pressures for the caliber.
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Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:06 pm to Gaston
Not sure what you mean by "less stable platform"
Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:07 pm to chrisman17
Launching it out of a gun not made for that kind of pressure
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