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Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:58 pm to CSATiger
Concur, Rem Core Lok 150. When you clean them you cannot understand how they could run 20 yards,
Posted on 12/23/24 at 10:58 am to PocketLab
Black butterfly or maker bullets. they are nasty!
Posted on 12/23/24 at 5:36 pm to CSATiger
CoreLokt 180gr round nose soft point was my bullet of choice for a long time. Plenty deer shot with them, and never lost one that I hit. Bullet would mushroom completely and the deer usually wouldn’t be far. Re sighted the gun in with 165gr ELDX for elk in Colorado. Shot a buck with it last year here and it blew apart. Deer fell where it stood but the opposite shoulder was unusable. I’d prefer the soft points for deer.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:27 pm to Tear It Up
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I shoot Norma 150g with the elk on the
These are the ones I have for him. I’ve shot almost every round mentioned and these group the best by far.
All four deer were vital shots, lung/heart. Smallest was a 90ish # deer at 75 yards. Biggest was 190#s at 55-60. Not a single pass through, very little blood. Recovered all the bullets and they mushroomed nicely. Im sure there was bone hit, would’ve been ribs not scapula. Just looking for something to produce more info to track with. All the deer were inside of 50 yards. We just hunt in a swampy palmetto jungle.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:37 pm to PocketLab
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I’ve shot almost every round mentioned and these group the best by far.
That sure is a lot of money spent on ammo to finally settle on one that doesn’t pass through.
I’d grab something remaining in one of the boxes you’ve tried before and see how that performs next.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:47 pm to PocketLab
PL,
I've never shot a Norma bullet so I don't have any experience w/ your bullet. Having said that, given your scenario, I'd expect a 150-165 gr 30 cal bullet shot from a 308 to provide a decent entrance/exit hole and blood trail. I won't use a bullet that can't do that. I hunt w/ long barreled handguns chambered in rifle rounds. I've used just about everything from 6X50 R to 375 JDJ. The last time I didn't have a "pass through" was prolly 20 years ago. That was using a 225 gr bullet in a 375 JDJ at an odd angle. As far as specific bullets, one of my hunting buddies has killed >50 deer w/ 150 gr Sierra GameKing and never been disappointed. When my son was young, I loaded 125 gr Nosler BT's for him at reduced velocity. All exited. When I moved him to full power loads, I loaded Sierra 150 gr Pro-Hunter w/ good results. Any proven 308 Win 150 gr cup and core bullet bullet should meet your needs. There's been >60 years of bullet development for the 308 Win. Other bullets will usually work fine, but aren't really needed. If looking at a non cup and core bullet, I'd start w/ 130 gr TTSX (it should penetrate like a 150 copper/lead bullet) and 150 gr Nosler AccuBond, Nosler Partition, Sierra PH/GK, Hornady and Speer. If you want factory loads, the Core-Lokt is hard to beat. The Fusion got a lot of votes here, but the only experience I've had w/ a Fusion bullet is 140 gr in a 284 Win handgun. Deer died quickly, but I thought the bullets didn't expand as much as it should have. I need to shoot it some more. Keep us updated.
I've never shot a Norma bullet so I don't have any experience w/ your bullet. Having said that, given your scenario, I'd expect a 150-165 gr 30 cal bullet shot from a 308 to provide a decent entrance/exit hole and blood trail. I won't use a bullet that can't do that. I hunt w/ long barreled handguns chambered in rifle rounds. I've used just about everything from 6X50 R to 375 JDJ. The last time I didn't have a "pass through" was prolly 20 years ago. That was using a 225 gr bullet in a 375 JDJ at an odd angle. As far as specific bullets, one of my hunting buddies has killed >50 deer w/ 150 gr Sierra GameKing and never been disappointed. When my son was young, I loaded 125 gr Nosler BT's for him at reduced velocity. All exited. When I moved him to full power loads, I loaded Sierra 150 gr Pro-Hunter w/ good results. Any proven 308 Win 150 gr cup and core bullet bullet should meet your needs. There's been >60 years of bullet development for the 308 Win. Other bullets will usually work fine, but aren't really needed. If looking at a non cup and core bullet, I'd start w/ 130 gr TTSX (it should penetrate like a 150 copper/lead bullet) and 150 gr Nosler AccuBond, Nosler Partition, Sierra PH/GK, Hornady and Speer. If you want factory loads, the Core-Lokt is hard to beat. The Fusion got a lot of votes here, but the only experience I've had w/ a Fusion bullet is 140 gr in a 284 Win handgun. Deer died quickly, but I thought the bullets didn't expand as much as it should have. I need to shoot it some more. Keep us updated.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:18 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
That’s ~160 yards, ~100 lb doe DRT
165 gr fusion with a muzzle velocity of 2,550 fps.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:37 am to Tigerstro2
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I shoot 130gr Barnes TTSX and have for the last 3-4 years. Absolutely love them for deer and pigs. If they run I’ve never had an issue with a blood trail on deer and all but one runner fell within 35 yards. Pigs I’ve only shot in the head so of course they were DRT.
This right here. Love it. Use it for my kids youth rifle.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:51 am to PocketLab
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All four deer were vital shots, lung/heart
That’s surprising. This was a 200 yd shot on a South TX buck last season.

Posted on 12/24/24 at 8:57 am to Kashmir
That’s what I use. Great cartridge.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 9:42 am to Tear It Up
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That’s surprising. This was a 200 yd shot on a South TX buck last season.
Under 100 yard shots are tougher on a bullet than you’d think.
I think we’re all mixing up a few things. If the bullet is coming apart and not exiting, the velocity is too much for the bullet and you need a tougher bullet or to send your current bullet slower.
If the bullet is remaining round like an accubond or a perfect flower like a mono metal, it needs to go faster to get through.
If you are shooting Norma 150 soft points, it’s probably coming apart, the same thing happens with 150 core lokts often on closer shots.
You should try a much heavier soft point like a 180 core lokt or one of the 165 tougher options like a accubond, fusion, or oryx and see how that works.
The problem with these threads is nobody knows the velocity of the bullet. The optimal bullet at 2700 fps and 2100 fps not the same one.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 10:42 am to PocketLab
I shoot the Hornady Super Performances 168 grain and they absolutely crush deer
Posted on 12/24/24 at 2:14 pm to PocketLab
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He's shot 4 deer with them and has yet to get a full pass through and little to no blood.
Not flaming, but all deer were found dead? How far did they run?
What did the recovered bullet look like? For example, did it expand like a typical deer hunting bullet, did the jacket and core separate, did it fragment?
ETA: Were they from the same box or same lot of loads? If so, that'd raise they question of a quality control problem w/ the load.
This post was edited on 12/24/24 at 2:16 pm
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