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re: .270 vs . 30-06
Posted on 12/20/11 at 7:47 am to TexTiga
Posted on 12/20/11 at 7:47 am to TexTiga
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30-06
ETA: FWIW My dad shot an 8pt at 240yds w/ his 30-06 last saturday and didnt aim an inch high. aimed on the shoulder and squeezed the trigger
ETA2: this will go against my cause but I have a buddy that shot 5x5 elk with a .270 at 160yds also
So both rounds are good, one is faster the other has more arse behind it. So the real question is, do you like power football or Oregon football?
This post was edited on 12/20/11 at 7:55 am
Posted on 12/20/11 at 7:48 am to CajunFootball
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I would consider it much like the 7mm to the 7mm-08
huh? come again senor?
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:27 am to mylsuhat
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So the real question is, do you like power football or Oregon football?
Excellent.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:28 am to choupiquesushi
Yeah, I'm not feeling the 7mm reference either.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:29 am to INFIDEL
What you're talking about, I have no idea.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:40 am to CajunFootball
There is no right answer for this question. Just opinions.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:43 am to INFIDEL
Likes been said, the difference between the two are negligible. Alx, the 280 is never included because of a guy named Jack Oconnor. It's really that simple.
The 270 win is going to be a little faster at the muzzle and a little flatter shooting as long as your bullets are lighter. With that lighter bullet you are getting lower ballistic coefficient and sectional density out of your bullet, so is it simply a trade off? I think so. I love my 270win because it's kind of my pet round, but I honestly can't argue one over the other. The only thing I can honestly say is that the 270win has less recoil when loaded with the 130's. As far as deer running 100 yards after being shot with the 270? I don't know what to tell you. Never been a problem for me or anyone I hunt with, so I would go with the obvious on that.
Oh, and OP didn't ask about everyone's new favorite round "______" wsm, so I'll keep my opinion for the next thread.
The 270 win is going to be a little faster at the muzzle and a little flatter shooting as long as your bullets are lighter. With that lighter bullet you are getting lower ballistic coefficient and sectional density out of your bullet, so is it simply a trade off? I think so. I love my 270win because it's kind of my pet round, but I honestly can't argue one over the other. The only thing I can honestly say is that the 270win has less recoil when loaded with the 130's. As far as deer running 100 yards after being shot with the 270? I don't know what to tell you. Never been a problem for me or anyone I hunt with, so I would go with the obvious on that.
Oh, and OP didn't ask about everyone's new favorite round "______" wsm, so I'll keep my opinion for the next thread.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:44 am to INFIDEL
Just step up to the 7mm and nothing moves after it get shots.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:46 am to CajunFootball
even with the 7mm, you have more speed and less power behing the bullet
We shoot 150grain boat tail bullets with max powder for the 30-06, love it
We shoot 150grain boat tail bullets with max powder for the 30-06, love it
Posted on 12/20/11 at 8:52 am to mylsuhat
Hat, you may want to rethink your "power" argument.
And you "magnum" boys kill me.
And you "magnum" boys kill me.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 9:03 am to INFIDEL
Yeah Infidel knows where I'm about to go with that argument.
On a whitetail, I'll take light and fast over big and slow all day every day. I load 125gr Ballistic tips doing 3200 FPS in 30-06 that I defy you to top with a .270 for killing the shite out of a whitetail.
People who think there's only two rounds for the '06 are missing out on one of the most versatile rounds made.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 9:06 am to faxis
Was thinking about loading some 110s in the 270 just to see what I can get out of it. I'm pushing 130 AB 3000 right now.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 9:07 am to faxis
I shot .30-06 for close to 17 years and just switched to .270 WSM.
My only reason for the switch was to do something different.
My only reason for the switch was to do something different.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 9:08 am to INFIDEL
My 7mm doesn't let deer walk. My Federal bullets do work on em.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 9:19 am to INFIDEL
quote:Didn't come along way after he was gone?
Alx, the 280 is never included because of a guy named Jack Oconnor. It's really that simple.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 9:25 am to AlxTgr
Yes. But because of him, the 270 vs 30-06 mvmt has consumed American deer hunting, leaving little room for new cartridges to break out until the "magnum movement" and honestly the "wsm movement". These are my opinions, of course. Too many excellent rounds out there, just that most of them really can't do any better then the ole war horse or Oconnor's 270. Actually, without oconnor, the 270win would probably have been as obscure as the 280.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 9:27 am to INFIDEL
And me likes me .280 too.....
Posted on 12/20/11 at 9:27 am to AlxTgr
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Didn't come along way after he was gone?
Yes, and in factory loads, when you can find them, the .280 is not loaded up to the same pressures as the .270 and the 30-06 and thus, misses on some of its potential. The .280 debuted as a Remington cartridge chambered in the 742 and thus, it was loaded to lower pressures for the autoloader.
As to the original question, flip a coin.
However, I will say that in my personal experience, I find the 30-06 to be a much quicker killer. I'm not sure why and I know that really shouldn't be, but in my limited sample size of 20 or 25 deer shot with each caliber, I've never had one I shot with a 30-06 take more than one or two steps and until this year, I had never had one I shot with a .270 die right there.
I can think of one I shot with the .270 that I double lunged at about 125 yards. That deer ran nearly a quarter of a mile and then crawled up under a bush and died on its stomach. There was no blood and it was only because I knew the area so well and where the deer went that I found that deer. And even then, it was pure luck. I walked by it twice before I happened to look at the bush again and see it.
Posted on 12/20/11 at 9:27 am to INFIDEL
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Was thinking about loading some 110s in the 270 just to see what I can get out of it. I'm pushing 130 AB 3000 right now
We did 110's in the '06 just to see how they shot thinking they might be decent for varmints. They weren't. Ballistic coefficient was so off they would tumble. The round was just too short. In the .270 it would probably work though.
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