re: .270 vs . 30-06

Here's a little data for thought. These are the ballistics of the .270 vs the 30-06 both sighted in at 150 yards, no wind, sight height of 1.5 inches, and a max range of 400 yards.





on the second pic, the first group of data is for the 06 and the second is for the .270. I couldn't get the full screen on my phone at one time.

And on the graph, the 06 is cartridge 1.

Jesus, how can you guys argue this every week? Do you all research extensively during the week to bring new information to the argument or can I safely assume everyone says the same shite they said last week?

I have always heard the stories about deer running off with 270's, but to be completely honest with you I have never seen a deer hit right run much further then comparable shots from other rounds. I've seen em fall dead from a 22 magnum and I've seen em run off with a 300 mag. I've seen guys call liver shot a double lung and gut shots a liver shot. I've seen a guy shoot a doe in the head with an -06 running at 300 yards and I've seen a guy shoot a buck in the mouth at 80 yards with a 7 mag. That one ran off, by the way and was never found. I have seen at least 5 deer, shot with anything from a 270 to a 300 mag be "shot dead" only to walk to where they were laying and they be gone. Only happened to me once and was with an -06 at 50 yards.

Point is, shite happens. The stories about "my brothers and me....." or "my daddy once....." have to be taken with a grain of salt and then try to look at the few facts that can be had when discussing calibers.

Well frick you then.

Faxis, I think you're right. I only used those size bullets because that's what I had saved in my phone because thase are the ones I shoot.

I just cahnged the .270 to a 150 grain bullet and the trajectory is almost identical. I took 2 snapshots so you can see all the bullet data.

And that's what it was all about. My uncle was the deer killingest mf'r that ever wiped his arse with a leaf and his round was the -06. Like I said earlier, mine has always been the 270. Can't argue it over -06 or the other way around.

Try a 165 grain bullet for the 30-06. That is the bullet closest to the 130 in the .270.

Y'all still trying to justify the 30-06?

Ballistics all you wanna know

I've seen more deer run off never to be found again from people shooting 180+ grain 30-06 than any other round. The problem with those rounds is that they just pass right through an animal the size of a whitetail without delivering anywhere near the damage of a lighter, faster round.

They just poke a hole. Now as long as you are making sure that hole is in the right spot, it doesn't matter. It's when that hole is 2 inches off where you start wondering what happened to that deer. I've seen deer shot in the last rib going straight across with the 125 that dropped the deer in his tracks. I've seen that same cartridge heart shoot them and they run 80 yrds. But I've never seen one hit anywhere near the vitals with it that ran further than that. I've seen deer hit in the shoulder with 180s that were blood trailed for a mile or more and never recovered. And I've seen that more than once.

If you're shooting elk, yeah, go with a heavier bullet. Preferably a 167 or so. Want to kill a moose, then go up past that. But for frick sake, don't shoot that shite at whitetails. You have a TON of better options.