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2017 Gulf dead zone is largest ever, size of New Jersey
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:07 pm
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The low-oxygen dead zone along the Louisiana and Texas Gulf coast measured 8,776 square miles, the largest area since cruises began in 1985, and as large as the state of New Jersey, a team of researchers announced Wednesday (Aug. 2).
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Hypoxia, the scientific term for water containing less than 2 parts per million of oxygen, is known to kill organisms living in bottom sediments along the northern Gulf Coast, and recent research has shown that it also increases the price for some commercial fish catches, including shrimp, because the shrimp and fish stay out of the low-oxygen water, requiring fishers to travel farther to catch them.
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Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:08 pm to WPBTiger
"Dead Zone"
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:11 pm to mylsuhat
So the fish are... east?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:12 pm to WPBTiger
It must be in a very small section of the water column because I know people fishing all through there that are catching.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:17 pm to WPBTiger
I remember being in Green Canyon in August about 8 years ago. It was dead calm and like looking into an aquarium. Fish, whales, marlin, hand feeding tuna at the transom, etc. That was smack dab in the middle of the Dead Zone.....
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:19 pm to WPBTiger
I've always wondered how legit this dead zone was.
This is a huge red flag for me.
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and recent research has shown that it also increases the price for some commercial fish catches, including shrimp, because the shrimp and fish stay out of the low-oxygen water, requiring fishers to travel farther to catch them.
This is a huge red flag for me.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:21 pm to upgrayedd
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and recent research has shown that it also increases the price for some commercial fish catches, including shrimp, because the shrimp and fish stay out of the low-oxygen water, requiring fishers to travel farther to catch them.
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This is a huge red flag for me.
I expect it to move North over crawfish country next spring.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:22 pm to No Colors
Straight BS..... have had friends all over that area rig fishing for the last 2 months kilin it. Got watch thos e-liberals and there agendsa.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:23 pm to No Colors
from the dead zone a few weeks ago 
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I think its a water column thing.
[/img] I think its a water column thing.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:26 pm to GREENHEAD22
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It must be in a very small section of the water column because I know people fishing all through there that are catching.
It's only the bottom 3 or 4 feet where dead algae settles, from blooms caused by fertilizer runoff. The decay consumes oxygen. Fish simply suspend above it.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:31 pm to SeaPickle
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I think its a water column thing.
I am gonna go out on a limb here and say it's a grossly misrepresented set of interpretive data that has been manipulated by academics in order to create attention that inevitably leads to more funding, for more studies, thus creating job security for....academics.
But that's just a hunch.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:32 pm to SeaPickle
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from the dead zone a few weeks ago
I guess you found all those fish floating and dying from apoxia. Lucky bastard.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:38 pm to WPBTiger
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it also increases the price for some commercial fish catches
which is the only reason this "science" is being published
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:41 pm to Clyde Tipton
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I expect it to move North over crawfish country next spring.
They're expecting to have a difficult season with too much water, except in the areas where it's just too dry. Between the fuel prices and bait costs, coupled with the high temps being too high and the low temps being too low, we can expect $3.00/lb until Easter.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:43 pm to No Colors
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I am gonna go out on a limb here and say it's a grossly misrepresented set of interpretive data that has been manipulated by academics in order to create attention that inevitably leads to more funding, for more studies, thus creating job security for....academics.
Yes and no. The data itself is very solid. This is a real thing that's happening. As water temps go up, fertilizer coming down the MS causes algae blooms, the algae dies and sinks, and the decay consumes oxygen. That's why the shape roughly outlines the dispersion of fresh water from the MS.
The rest of the story is what you said, calling it a dead zone makes it sound like some ecological disaster when in reality it only affects the very bottom of the water column and fish just swim up a couple feet.
This post was edited on 8/2/17 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:51 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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The rest of the story is what you said, calling it a dead zone makes it sound like some ecological disaster when in reality it only affects the very bottom of the water column and fish just swim up a couple feet.
But isn't the bottom the most important part of the ecosystem?
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:52 pm to No Colors
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I am gonna go out on a limb here and say it's a grossly misrepresented set of interpretive data that has been manipulated by academics in order to create attention that inevitably leads to more funding, for more studies, thus creating job security for....academics.
While I agree...the ethanol business is a big part of this "dead zone".
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:54 pm to Clyde Tipton
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I expect it to move North over crawfish country next spring.
You got it. I can just hear those phone calls going out right now between the crawfishermen.... "Forget all 'dat wind blowin too hard and not enough rain but too much rain too fas' and all 'dat. All ya gotta say is highpocksuh! Tree dollah live, baw!"
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:57 pm to DonChowder
Nope. The US Midwest rotates corn and beans on an every other year cycle. There is usually about 80 million acres of corn and 90 million acres of beans in the US regardless of crop prices or ethanol subsidies.
If ethanol went away you might see 5-10 million acres of corn come out, and move to beans. But that's not enough to have a material effect on the N load going into the MS River.
FTR: Corn uses liquid N that washes downstream. Beans do not.
If ethanol went away you might see 5-10 million acres of corn come out, and move to beans. But that's not enough to have a material effect on the N load going into the MS River.
FTR: Corn uses liquid N that washes downstream. Beans do not.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 3:00 pm to DonChowder
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While I agree...the ethanol business is a big part of this "dead zone".
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