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re: WSJ - Regulators Accepted Gifts From Oil Industry, Report Says

Posted on 5/25/10 at 7:24 pm to
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 7:24 pm to
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I was just sharing the information, someone sent me the link earlier this afternoon.


Yeah, I wasn't trying to call you out or anything. It was more a response to the cooks coming out of the woodwork with their responses. It is a good read, even if some things were sort of generalized and made it look worse than what it really is.
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 7:28 pm to
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When you factor in transportation, I cannot think of a single thing.


I didn't ask them to factor in transportation because it would have made it impossible.

I'm glad you liked the question and that you actually thought about it. A lot of people still won't get our reliance on oil and gas and the drilling industry, and their by-products, even after considering that question.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27816 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 8:17 pm to
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i predict a shitload of MMS higher ups are about to get fired as they should.


A little too late for that prediction. This is old news and many of those people have already been fired and prosecuted.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27816 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 8:20 pm to
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ind another lin eo fwork because we're going to be closing the doors shut on offshore drilling.


I'll ask you the same question that I asked another poster who wants drilling shut down.


Who/what is going to replace all of the federal income from oil royalties?
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10942 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 8:35 pm to
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MMS didn't cause this. Look other places for blame.


I never claimed the MMS caused this. I said they were scumbags who are pawns for the oil and gas industry and have been for a while. Show me anywhere where I even remotely blame the MMS for this accident.




Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1693 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 8:41 pm to
The NRC seems like a pretty clean cut regulatory organization. It's not like it is an impossible feat to impose regulations to avoid accidents.
This post was edited on 5/25/10 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 8:52 pm to
yall missed this one

quote:

One inspector was flown on an oil company plane to the Peach Bowl college football game to watch LSU play the University of Miami. Later, the official emailed his colleagues that "The 40 to 3 arse whipping LSU put on Miami was a lot more impressive in person. My daughter and I had a blast."


LINK
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 10:38 pm to
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The NRC seems like a pretty clean cut regulatory organization. It's not like it is an impossible feat to impose regulations to avoid accidents.


Ummm.....Three Mile Island? Yucca Mountain?

Radioactive groundwater contamination in the north east?

Try Again.

Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1693 posts
Posted on 5/25/10 at 11:00 pm to
Damn that accident at Yucca Mountain. So many innocent lives were lost that day...
This post was edited on 5/25/10 at 11:29 pm
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 5/26/10 at 8:45 am to
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But no big news stories about politicians taking all kinds of shite from lobbyists.


Charlie Rangel
Tom Delay
Ted Stevens
And many, many others I'm leaving out. I don't think anyone is picking on the MMS and leaving politicians out.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 5/26/10 at 9:57 am to
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I've worked with dozens of MMS field reps, and they are nothing like what the media makes them out to be.

As I said before, until something comes out where MMS intentionally overlooked an area that was out of compliance on the Deepwater Horizon because of what that report stated, that and this disaster have nothing to do with each other.
My experience is similar. I seriously fail to believe that someone on the DW Horizon said "Hey, we've got some safety issues that are going to lead to a blow out of a couple of million barrels of oil... will you take these LSU tickets to look the other way?"
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33334 posts
Posted on 5/26/10 at 10:01 am to
here is the actual report these articles are talking about.

All of the mentions of the Peach Bowl and LSU were funny for about the first five times I read them but after that it got old.
LINK
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49840 posts
Posted on 5/26/10 at 10:03 am to
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I never claimed the MMS caused this. I said they were scumbags who are pawns for the oil and gas industry and have been for a while.

and how do you know this? TV? News Paper?

you are ignorant and dont know shite about this
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 5/26/10 at 10:20 am to
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Damn that accident at Yucca Mountain. So many innocent lives were lost that day...


If you do not consider building a spent fuel rod depository on top of a known geologic fault an accident..........

Well, one day you will.
Posted by NukemVol
Member since Jan 2010
1693 posts
Posted on 5/26/10 at 10:47 am to
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If you do not consider building a spent fuel rod depository on top of a known geologic fault an accident..........

Well, one day you will.



If I live to be 10,000 when the storage casks are expected to fail, so that waste seepage could even possibly be an issue which is still predicted as unlikely...I think I'll be more surprised that I lived 10,000 years. And as far as earthquakes, they've planned quite well for that.
Posted by tgrgrd00
Kenner, LA
Member since Jun 2004
10942 posts
Posted on 5/26/10 at 10:48 am to

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and how do you know this? TV? News Paper?


I have had previous interaction with the MMS and have formed my own opinion. I thought then that they were too cozy with the oil and gas companies as I still do to this day.


quote:

you are ignorant and dont know shite about this


GFY. I believe what I believe and you calling me ignorant certainly isn't going to change my thinking.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49840 posts
Posted on 5/26/10 at 10:51 am to
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I have had previous interaction with the MMS and have formed my own opinion

im guessing you got caught doing stuff wrong and you were repremanded for it but u think the it would be different if it were another company
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