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Why hasn't a moratorium been placed on coal mines!
Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:45 am
Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:45 am
Not trying to be heartless but there is a coal mining accident every 2-5 years. On just a few months ago. Now this is the first spill of this kind and there is a ban on drilling for months to check procedures and fix the MMS, but there have been many coal mining incidents and that industry never stops as far as i know.
Also after 911 (sorry not tying to be insensitive) planes were shut down for 24-48 hours, but we didn't shut down the airline industry for 6 months. We made changes on the go. We put Marshall's in planes! Why couldn't the MMS put a rep on each deep water rig for the processes of new changes and that way a MMS person would always be there.
Also after 911 (sorry not tying to be insensitive) planes were shut down for 24-48 hours, but we didn't shut down the airline industry for 6 months. We made changes on the go. We put Marshall's in planes! Why couldn't the MMS put a rep on each deep water rig for the processes of new changes and that way a MMS person would always be there.
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Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:47 am to cigtyme
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Why couldn't the MMS put a rep on each deep water rig for the processes of new changes and that way a MMS person would always be there.
because that would make them cozy w/ the operators...
i'm also hearing that inspectors will now have to brown bag their lunch instead of being allowed to eat on the platform that has excess food...
Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:49 am to mylsuhat
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Why couldn't the MMS put a rep on each deep water rig for the processes of new changes and that way a MMS person would always be there
They could but the POTUS does not want them to because he and his band of merry men want to use this crisis to push his agenda.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:50 am to mylsuhat
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allowed to eat on the platform that has excess food...
excess food? Com'on I know some of the MMS people. They arrive and an hr later or so another helicopter arrives with an ice chest of fresh gulf shrimp. Thats just on the rig. In town its 5 star dining.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:52 am to Mudminnow
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Thats just on the rig. In town its 5 star dining.
I take it the oil companies are paying for their dinners?
That's not fine dining...that's called corruption.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:52 am to Mudminnow
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excess food? Com'on
what I'm saying is that the food they are going to eat would be thrown away anyways
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In town its 5 star dining
idk about 5 star
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:20 am to Mudminnow
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excess food? Com'on I know some of the MMS people. They arrive and an hr later or so another helicopter arrives with an ice chest of fresh gulf shrimp. Thats just on the rig. In town its 5 star dining.
bullshite.......pics or it didn't happen.
I know MMS people too.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 11:47 am to cigtyme
When a coal mine collapses it doesn't threaten other states. The air traffic stoppage was not due to an unknown problem with jet designs. A reasonable solution could be implemented quickly. They are not comparable situations.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 12:22 pm to LSU80 USF08
Why does everything get so caught up in politics and other BS?
Get the top execs together and make a step by step process on how to handle the cementing of a hole. Make the men on the rig follow the process to the T with criminal fines/charges being brought to all involved, including the execs for both companies invovlved, rig company and oil company and cementing company.
Make the fines include immediate termination also of any execs overseeing the project of the specific well.
I promise you it would not happen again.
Oh yeah, and while you are at it, make it MANDATORY, no matter what the fricking cost, that a BOP is used is designed to be able to shear thru the thickest casing and any pipes/strings still inside! It could easily be done!
Get the top execs together and make a step by step process on how to handle the cementing of a hole. Make the men on the rig follow the process to the T with criminal fines/charges being brought to all involved, including the execs for both companies invovlved, rig company and oil company and cementing company.
Make the fines include immediate termination also of any execs overseeing the project of the specific well.
I promise you it would not happen again.
Oh yeah, and while you are at it, make it MANDATORY, no matter what the fricking cost, that a BOP is used is designed to be able to shear thru the thickest casing and any pipes/strings still inside! It could easily be done!
Posted on 6/7/10 at 1:35 pm to cigtyme
The fall out from a coal mine incident is fairly localized. It only affects those directly working in the mine and does not harm the environment and livelihood of thousands of people. It has been two damn months, this thing still isnt fixed and we do not know how far the effects from this thing will be felt. These are the classical reasons for a moratorium.
I am not an Obama supporter (and I love that spell check still doesnt recognize his name) but I do agree with the moratorium.
I am not an Obama supporter (and I love that spell check still doesnt recognize his name) but I do agree with the moratorium.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 1:38 pm to saltybulldog
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I do agree with the moratorium.
this was a freak accident, we all agree, but that should put hundreds of thousands of people out of a job?
Posted on 6/7/10 at 3:20 pm to mylsuhat
This was not a "freak" accident. We have had wells acting like this before, it's just that they were handled properly by safety concience men who didn't cut corners for a profit and ignore mistakes and dangers for the sake of finishing quicker!
These frickers mad decisions which were avoidable with the information available...they chose to ignore under orders from above.
These frickers mad decisions which were avoidable with the information available...they chose to ignore under orders from above.
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 6/7/10 at 4:29 pm to mylsuhat
I stopped reading at "freak accident".
Get this straight people...this was not a freak accident. It is a result of negligence. I cannot say if Obama would have put a moratorium on drilling if this were purely a freak accident. If it were, I might be more upset about the moratorium.
Ok, I read your entire post, so out of curiousity..."hundreds of thousands" of people?..., really?
Get this straight people...this was not a freak accident. It is a result of negligence. I cannot say if Obama would have put a moratorium on drilling if this were purely a freak accident. If it were, I might be more upset about the moratorium.
Ok, I read your entire post, so out of curiousity..."hundreds of thousands" of people?..., really?
Posted on 6/7/10 at 4:45 pm to saltybulldog
Is this a 1/50 chance accident or 1/1,000 or 1/100,000?
Its not like theyve been drilling in 5,000 feet of water for 100 years.
I can understand a moratorium on new deepwater drilling wells.
Its not like theyve been drilling in 5,000 feet of water for 100 years.
I can understand a moratorium on new deepwater drilling wells.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 4:56 pm to saltybulldog
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The fall out from a coal mine incident is fairly localized
this.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 8:15 pm to el tigre
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Why hasn't a moratorium been placed on coal mines!
Because Muslim countries don't produce coal.
Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:50 pm to cigtyme
because no animals died in the coal mine incident
Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:04 am to Mudminnow
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Is this a 1/50 chance accident or 1/1,000 or 1/100,000?
A. It is not an "accident" dammit. Someone told the men what to do and causeed this.
B. It is a 100/100 chance it happens if the same decisions are made with the same information available by a company ignoring safety concerns.
This "accident" happened way before the blowout, it started with the MORONIC idea to use and out of service BOP that they service themselves when they are the ones wanting to save money!!!
THink about that for a second, your only concern is saving money on the bottom line because you are rewarded for it and YOU SERVICE YOUR OWN BOP's!!!!
Add to that the stupid ignorant decisions made during the final day/hours of the work and this is a LOCK to happen damn near every time.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:07 am to the LSUSaint
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Someone told the men what to do and causeed this.
Who is that someone?
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company ignoring safety concerns.
Which company?
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it started with the MORONIC idea to use and out of service BOP that they service themselves when they are the ones wanting to save money!!!
Who said that the BOP was out of service?
Who serviced the BOP?
Who was trying to save money?
Posted on 6/8/10 at 9:08 am to the LSUSaint
you base all of your arguments on speculation, while there may be some truth and accuracy to this you dont know for sure.
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