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Posted on 6/1/10 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 7:53 pm to
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Are they gonna cut the heads off the flange bolts?


That's what I'm trying to figure out. It looks like they are going to try and cut through at the flange itself.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 7:54 pm to
Not only the visibility, difficulty in operating the wrenches but once you get down to the last bolt that thing would be in an enormous bind.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 7:56 pm to
so whats on the screen now is the only leak? if so it seems like they could have modified those hydraulic jaws that they had earlier to be able to bite down on the leftover piece of pipe sticking out above the flange and crush it closed.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 7:58 pm to
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so whats on the screen now is the only leak? if so it seems like they could have modified those hydraulic jaws that they had earlier to be able to bite down on the leftover piece of pipe sticking out above the flange and crush it closed.


I doubt they would have wanted that back pressure in the riser while they are making this cut.
Posted by TomTide
Alabama
Member since Jun 2006
48 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:00 pm to
Hi Gang; just checking in.

Like everyone else, I've been watching the fascinating video of the mighty "Jaws" operation. Good that phase 1 seems to have been successfully completed.

Anybody got any rough guesstimates on how long it will take for the special diamond studded band saw to cut all the way through in the precise manner that needs to be done???

And, as usual, thanks a bunch for those of you who actually work in the industry & are willing to toss out some helpful tidbits to the rest of us who are learning a few of the basics about drilling deep on the ocean floor.
Posted by JasonLSU
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2007
1906 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:01 pm to
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Not only the visibility, difficulty in operating the wrenches but once you get down to the last bolt that thing would be in an enormous bind.



Isn't removing the bolts part of the next step (second BOP)?
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:02 pm to
I have no clue how long the diamond cutter will take. Just looking at it and what it has to cut through I would guess around 3 hours.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:03 pm to
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Isn't removing the bolts part of the next step (second BOP)?


They are cutting the bolts and/or flange now with the diamond cutter.
Posted by TomTide
Alabama
Member since Jun 2006
48 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:04 pm to
Thanks, Stick.

If they can do it that fast, I'd say that it would be pretty dang impressive.

Should be interesting to watch in any event.
Posted by JasonLSU
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:05 pm to
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They are cutting the bolts and/or flange now with the diamond cutter.



The the clamp I'm looking at on the flange the rollers for the 'diamond rope'? I thought it was gonna be a little higher.
Posted by jeff967
Monroe, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:06 pm to
they are cutting above the flange
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40883 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

The the clamp I'm looking at on the flange the rollers for the 'diamond rope'? I thought it was gonna be a little higher.


Based on early explanations I thought it would be a cut on the riser itself too. But looking at that video there isn't enough good riser to bother with. They're definitely cutting at the flange.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:07 pm to
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jennBN
there's a q&a in the OT waiting for you...
Posted by JasonLSU
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2007
1906 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:08 pm to
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Based on early explanations I thought it would be a cut on the riser itself too. But looking at that video there isn't enough good riser to bother with. They're definitely cutting at the flange.


Thanks---one more question. Would the cut start on the near side of the machine or the far side? I don't see activity on the far side that would indicate that the cutting has actually started.
Posted by redstick13
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

they are cutting above the flange


It looks to me like they are making the cut where the two flanges mate up.
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:09 pm to
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Thanks---one more question. Would the cut start on the near side of the machine or the far side? I don't see activity on the far side that would indicate that the cutting has actually started.


It has to be on the near side of the machine.
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:12 pm to
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It looks to me like they are making the cut where the two flanges mate up.


no way, right? I didn't think the cap would be designed for that. BP's images of their plan clearly show the mating flanges intact.
Posted by jeff967
Monroe, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
925 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:14 pm to
bp's plan #2 is to remove the flange
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40883 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:15 pm to
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no way, right? I didn't think the cap would be designed for that. BP's images of their plan clearly show the mating flanges intact


I'm not sure but they zoomed in close just now and there was no visible cutting device around the bolts on top the flange. So they are either cutting through where the flanges mate up, below the flanges, or the cutting device isn't active yet.
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 6/1/10 at 8:16 pm to
Here's how they show it.

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