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It is a 4" tube Why.....

Posted on 5/17/10 at 6:57 pm
Posted by MoreOrLes
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Posted on 5/17/10 at 6:57 pm
not larger. Any experts on here care to guess. Earlier I thought I read 6" . My guess was it my be the limitations of the ROV.
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Posted by LSUFANMICK
Colorado Springs
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 8:07 am to
Well since it is a first at this depth, it was a trial with the 4inch. Hopefully the can put a larger one.
Posted by Me4Heisman
Landmass
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 8:35 am to
Because a larger tube requires more force to push it inside the riser pipe. When an underwater robot is doing the placement, your options are limited.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 11:41 am to
when was the last time you threaded a needle from a mile away?
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 11:46 am to
Pretty sure a 4" pipe can flow 20K barrels a day. So it should be adequate.
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 12:02 pm to
Poster from another board indicated that the yield from the 4" pipe was all the tankers could handle. FWIW
Posted by 756
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 12:10 pm to
yep this mornings news indicates the ship is filling faster than they anticipated
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 12:15 pm to
how big are these tankers? Im assuming the max rate any oil would be coming in would be 5,000 barrels a day since BP has refused to acknowledge any other science regarding a higher number.

Surely the tankers can hold 500,000 barrels.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 12:37 pm to
Also the oil is collecting on the drill ship transocean enterprise. You can always pull another tanker up and offload on to it.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 12:42 pm to
Yeah they only have so much capacity topside to handle whatever comes up and they don't want to try to handle to much and risk another accident.

However it would seem like they could split the pipe topside and have two ships taking on whatever is coming up.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34200 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 12:46 pm to
How big are these tankers though? They said the other day a 1,000 barrels a day and the max coming out is 5,000 barrels a day. They couldnt bring in larger tankers?
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 12:49 pm to
Searching...... I'll let the board know if I find anything.
Posted by TigerDog83
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 12:51 pm to
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How big are these tankers though? They said the other day a 1,000 barrels a day and the max coming out is 5,000 barrels a day. They couldnt bring in larger tankers?


Cannot find the link but I believe the plan as stated previously is to use the Enterprise to separate oil, water, and gas. The Enterprise is equipped with testing equipment so it was an obvious choice to use it to separate. The oil will be offloaded onto other vessels as needed. Gas will be flared.

Enterprise Specs
This post was edited on 5/18/10 at 1:06 pm
Posted by oilfieldtiger
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Dec 2003
2904 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 1:02 pm to
they'll probably lighter the oil/water from the Enterprise to barges. there's a fair number of available barges capable of handling hydrocarbons w/ 30,000 bbls and greater capacities.

This is a pretty standard way of handling oil produced during well testing (temporary flow testing to a rig before any sort of permanent structure is in place). in that case, the gas can be flared and burned, but the oil cannot, so you have to send it off to barges that haul it in.

ETA: "lightering" is when you partially offload liquid cargo from a larger vessel to several smaller vessels for handling purposes -- like if a tanker is too large to get close enough to an offload facility, the volume is transferred to several smaller vessels that can haul it in.
This post was edited on 5/18/10 at 1:04 pm
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 1:08 pm to
A 4" line can handle 3K bbls/hr. easy. As long as they keep a flow, this is no problem.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 5/18/10 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Surely the tankers can hold 500,000 barrels.


Most ships that come upriver are 800ft.'ers and hold a little over 500K. The easy thing (Without knowing too much as to whats going on) is to get a seagoing barge to off load the crude. I'd need a little more info. like anything else. The Transocean Discoverer Enterprise is 835ft. A seagoing barge could come along side and onload with ease.
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/18/10 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

the Discoverer Enterprise has a storage capacity of 128,000 barrels


Transocean had BOP 'issue' on India rig

The article is very interesting in other regards too.
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