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Doom and gloom not coming to fruition (van Heerden agrees)
Posted on 7/10/10 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 7/10/10 at 9:12 pm
It's not goong to be as bad as folks think. He called it on the levees and hurricane and was basically fired for his relentless pursuit of telling the truth. He'll be right on this as well, at least I hope so.
LINK
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"The public gets the perception that this is the black, heavy, tarry stuff that is in ship's bunkers and it covers everything and smothers it and just kills it, but that's not the kind of oil we're dealing with," Van Heerden says in a video on the BP website, dated July 1. "It's a very, very light oil. It's almost like diesel, and it breaks down very, very rapidly, especially here in Louisiana where it's very hot during the day and the water has suspended sediment in it so it may actually get hotter, and all of those combine with the fact that we have naturally in our system, the organisms, the microbes that break down the oil.", Van Heerden, a marine scientist,
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What we have seen is that in many locations, the fringe of the marsh has been oiled, but the plants, the stems are so dense that they almost act like a barrier," van Heerden says in the video. "So the penetration is minimal. Often a foot, maybe the worst we've seen is 6 to 8 feet.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/10/10 at 9:16 pm
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Posted on 7/10/10 at 9:22 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Posted on 7/10/10 at 9:37 pm to notiger1997
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Damn, this seems to have been discussed a little bit already.....
If there's any topic where Germans is good, it's the oil rig disaster stuff. This is taklking up the first severl ages of the papers way too much.
FWIW, I said early on that it would not be as bad as folks are making it out to be and I was accused of hating Louisiana.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:05 pm to LSUTANGERINE
That guy's a frickin' nutcase. He needs to go down there and live it just like Billy Nunguesser and Craig Tafaro have been doing for the last 8 weeks. That goes for Obama and his socialist buddies too. Van Heerden now works for BP, what the hell do you expect him to say.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:20 pm to tford50
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FWIW, I said early on that it would not be as bad as folks are making it out to be and I was accused of hating Louisiana.
i'm with you, you either hate louisiana or work for an oil company if you give any positive newsThis post was edited on 7/10/10 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:01 pm to tford50
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That guy's a frickin' nutcase. He needs to go down there and live it just like Billy Nunguesser and Craig Tafaro have been doing for the last 8 weeks. That goes for Obama and his socialist buddies too. Van Heerden now works for BP, what the hell do you expect him to say.
Nutcase? For teeling the truth? He works for BP so what do I expect him to say? He called it like it was while at LSU and paid for it with his job. He obviously values the truth more than his employers. SO the BP argument has no merit
He is a marine scientist whose been woking in LA a while. I'll trust his opinion over some parish president, neither of whom have his background and history of being truthful to the point of being hung out to dry. Those two are doing what they are supposed to do for their people--making noise to get help. There are reports from MANY who are just not seeing the predicted effects.
This post was edited on 7/10/10 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:02 pm to halleburton
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i'm with you, you either hate louisiana or work for an oil company if you give any positive news
agreed. I never bought into the doom and gloom.
Posted on 7/11/10 at 12:25 am to LSUTANGERINE
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He is a marine scientist whose been woking in LA a while. I'll trust his opinion over some parish president, neither of whom have his background and history of being truthful to the point of being hung out to dry. Those two are doing what they are supposed to do for their people--making noise to get help. There are reports from MANY who are just not seeing the predicted effects.
True story! If you think the politicians don't have an agenda too, then you're not paying attention.
Posted on 7/11/10 at 10:27 am to MountainTiger
And there are a whole bunch of other scientists out there who are of a different opinion. Look at the oyster beds. Minimum of 5 years for most of them to recover. The oil is killing all of the juvenile oysters and it takes a minimum of 3 years before the oysters are actually in their prime and really ready to be harvested. This is a lot worse then you people seem to think. That is a very fragile ecosystem there even with perfect conditions. You have to be living under a rock to not see that. Hell, they're still finding oil from the Valdez spill. I'll stick by my guns, Van Heerden is a frickin' nutcase, former LSU professor, or not. And as far as the comments about Nungesser and Tafaro playing politics, that is just wrong. It's obvious that you people have no clue and probably just don;t care.
Posted on 7/11/10 at 12:45 pm to tford50
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And there are a whole bunch of other scientists out there who are of a different opinion.
Link? And not of what they saying (probably pushed by the media) of the worst case of what could be happening....what actually IS happening.
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Look at the oyster beds.
I did. And I found no report to justify your statements. The ONLY hazard oysters have from the oil is if it fully coats the oyster beds with the thick tar.
And as far as I know, no beds have been contaminated as recently as a couple of weeks ago.
This is what I found via links, if you have something to counter it, please post.
Posted on 7/11/10 at 1:10 pm to LSUTANGERINE
So, BP has a scientist who is on the payroll of BP and said scientist comes out and says it is not as bad as it seems and you believe him?
Posted on 7/11/10 at 1:23 pm to Venicetiger
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So, BP has a scientist who is on the payroll of BP and said scientist comes out and says it is not as bad as it seems and you believe him?
Link?
And even if there is still some money connection, he is only on the payroll of BP because he has a history of not giving a damn of what his boss might think of his opinions and therefore got fired from his prior job.
EDIT: BTW, his observations HAVE be confirmed by posters here that are working on the front lines.
But by all means, discount WHATEVER he is saying just because it isn't gloom and doom.
This post was edited on 7/11/10 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 7/11/10 at 1:40 pm to Volvagia
Posted on 7/11/10 at 3:55 pm to Venicetiger
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So, BP has a scientist who is on the payroll of BP and said scientist comes out and says it is not as bad as it seems and you believe him?
apparently you do not know the history of van Heerden and how relentlessly pursues the truth, despite how it costs his job.
This post was edited on 7/11/10 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 7/11/10 at 6:08 pm to MountainTiger
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If you think the politicians don't have an agenda too, then you're not paying attention.
This. Politicians have a vested interest in making things seem as bad as possible. Same thing for the media.
van Heerden may or may not be wrong, I don't know, but he does call it like he sees it.
Posted on 7/11/10 at 6:34 pm to LSUTANGERINE
I was saying this 2 months ago and was killed for "having my head in the sand". Looks like there are some pretty smart people that agree with me.
Posted on 7/11/10 at 10:17 pm to tgrbaitn08
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was saying this 2 months ago and was killed for "having my head in the sand". Looks like there are some pretty smart people that agree with me.
and van Heerden agrees with you too.
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