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A good description of what happenend
Posted on 6/18/10 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/18/10 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/18/10 at 5:51 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
So at what point was the last opportunity that something could have been done to prevent this whole thing???? Could something have been done/stopped/redone at 9:08 or 9:30 or how about at 8:34 when
And I also ask who should have noticed/reported these things OR stopped the operation?
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During this 14-minute period one can conclude that hydrocarbons were flowing and pushing more fluid from the wellbore than was being pumped in
And I also ask who should have noticed/reported these things OR stopped the operation?
This post was edited on 6/18/10 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 6/18/10 at 7:42 pm to tiger91
The driller, whoever was working the mud pits and prop the tool pusher should have all known something was going on. That why we've been saying how unlikely this whole situation is and was a freak accident. There should have been at least 4 people that should have seen what was going on from the beginning.
Posted on 6/19/10 at 6:36 am to GREENHEAD22
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The driller, whoever was working the mud pits and prop the tool pusher should have all known something was going on. That why we've been saying how unlikely this whole situation is and was a freak accident. There should have been at least 4 people that should have seen what was going on from the beginning.
this is true.
Posted on 6/19/10 at 8:56 am to tigerdup07
Thats what makes this so unprecedented, not only was there massive mechanical failures but massive human errors and failures as well.
Posted on 6/19/10 at 9:26 am to tigerdup07
I had asked before and was told that anyone can stop the operation at anytime ... for the most part. Will we ever know if anyone tried to do this??? I mean, what if they did and the HIGHER UPS said no????? I listened to some of the testimony from some of the surviviors to Congress or whoever that panel was ... it was most interesting.
again I ask what was THE LATEST point when things could have been stopped so that this wouldn't have happened?
again I ask what was THE LATEST point when things could have been stopped so that this wouldn't have happened?
Posted on 6/19/10 at 9:31 am to tiger91
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I had asked before and was told that anyone can stop the operation at anytime ... for the most part
this is true.
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Will we ever know if anyone tried to do this???
the driller contacted the toolpusher, who was in the shower. by the time the pusher got on his way to the rig floor, it was too late.
Posted on 6/19/10 at 9:43 am to tigerdup07
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the driller contacted the toolpusher, who was in the shower. by the time the pusher got on his way to the rig floor, it was too late
Did these 2 make it? I'm guessing so and hoping too.
This post was edited on 6/19/10 at 9:46 am
Posted on 6/19/10 at 9:57 am to tiger91
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Did these 2 make it? I'm guessing so and hoping too.
the driller didn't. but, the toolpusher did.
Posted on 6/19/10 at 10:08 am to GREENHEAD22
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Thats what makes this so unprecedented, not only was there massive mechanical failures but massive human errors and failures as well.
I'm not so sure if there actually was a mechanical failure of the BOP after reading this. Who knows what was actually happening at the SS wellhead at the time the BOPs were actually functioned?? After reading this, it seems like the BOPs were NOT functioned until the gas bubble reached the surface. Hell pipe could have been moving up the hole by that pt and the BOPs are not designed to close/seal around moving pipe.
This post was edited on 6/19/10 at 10:10 am
Posted on 6/19/10 at 10:11 am to tigerdup07
So what would the toolpusher have done? Not by any means being ugly ...
Evidently there's no cross training so that the driller could have done something or is each position that specialized?
God this keeps seeming more of human error and decision making ... I hate that this shite ever happened. I know that we all do.
Evidently there's no cross training so that the driller could have done something or is each position that specialized?
God this keeps seeming more of human error and decision making ... I hate that this shite ever happened. I know that we all do.
Posted on 6/19/10 at 10:14 am to tiger91
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God this keeps seeming more of human error and decision making
Thats why I think the moratorium is a silly idea. IMO, the safety devices were NOT given a chance to work. This seems more like a driller not knowing what he was doing or being told to disregard obvious signs of trouble.
Posted on 6/19/10 at 10:17 am to STEVED00
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This seems more like a driller not knowing what he was doing or being told to disregard obvious signs of trouble.
Let me say for the 10 millionth time I do not know shite BUT this is what I'm starting to believe ... from hearing about "disagreements" between the higher ups on the rig about "he wants it this way" from a survivor in his testimony to what I've read (granted that could be skewed info).
This post was edited on 6/19/10 at 10:17 am
Posted on 6/19/10 at 10:30 am to tiger91
There may have been some disagreements but that doesn't matter bc when you see a major spike in your down hole pressure and your pits are being over flowed, everyone knows what going on and and whats about to happen. They no its a kick and a blow out can happen, the arguments and disagreements played no part when this was happening. No higher up is going to disregard a kick, it can potentially be suicide.
Posted on 6/19/10 at 12:02 pm to GREENHEAD22
All I know is that the guy I heard testify (I think it was a cementer guy) said that in the hours before the explosion he was doing his job and was talking about 2 guys (higher ups) not agreeing on how something should be done. He wasn't paying that much attention to the disagreement as he was busy but did hear one of them say something about "so and so wants it done this way".
It was this guys testimony ... just looked it up from my previous post here:
LINK
Christopher Pleasant - Transocean, subsea supervisor, providing recollection of incident aboard Deepwater Horizon
It was this guys testimony ... just looked it up from my previous post here:
LINK
Christopher Pleasant - Transocean, subsea supervisor, providing recollection of incident aboard Deepwater Horizon
Posted on 6/19/10 at 12:07 pm to tiger91
If I recall correctly they were discussing using only 2 plugs and pulling the mud out early. This was one cause for the blowout.
Posted on 6/19/10 at 12:36 pm to GREENHEAD22
I didn't understand half of what he said they were talking about but I can't help but think that arguments/disagreements about how things should be done and end up getting done didn't help things.
Posted on 6/19/10 at 12:38 pm to tiger91
The discussion he was talking about took some hours before the kick and the blowout.
Posted on 6/19/10 at 2:06 pm to mta504
This was no "accident".
this WAS a "dummassident"
this WAS a "dummassident"
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