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Posted on 6/7/10 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by SD 71
DeWitt County, Texas
Member since May 2010
56 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 4:18 pm to
There is no magic answer, but it takes more than an engineer with a hairbrained idea to work. These people have the best engineering minds in the world working to fix this thing. It just is not simple!!
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61079 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 5:22 pm to
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So what is your solution? you seem to know how every other idea wont work, and how stupid of them to suggest and idea of there own, so please sir, what is the magic answer?
I'll give you two. First, you go and get a gigantic cork. Since a cork won't sink, you take it to a witchdoctor. You get the witchdoctor to cast a magic spell on it that makes it sink. There's your magic. Then you take the cork and put it over the hole. There problem solved. I'm now a "prodigy" engineer according to CNN. Perfectly creative idea that won't work, and BP probably won't consider.

The workable answer is do exactly what's being done. Recover as much as possible at the leak site, and drill relief wells for the permanent solution. It is possible that everything that can be done IS being done.
Posted by purpleheart
Member since Jun 2010
764 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 6:33 pm to
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it's not all that brilliant.


Yet it's breaking news on CNN

P.S: She looks A LOT older than 21
This post was edited on 6/7/10 at 6:34 pm
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 7:06 pm to
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re: Links to live feeds from remotely operated vehicles (ROV) (Posted on 5/30/10 at 7:29 p.m. to JudgeHolden)
I have had a very stupid idea I suppose but have to get it off my chest. In surgery when they do a knee replacement they use a inflatable tourniquet much like a giant blood pressure cuff. They inflate prior to surgery to reduce blood loss. (Works very well)

Obviously BP can do the insertion tube but why not fit it with a very long/huge tourniquet around the out side of the pipe. to create the seal. They can then valve the insertion tube. I realize that they may not be able to completely shut it off due to pressure from the well but they may be able to partially cut it down enough for the mud to run down the well side of the line.

They had to have thought of this type of thing already.




I came up with that when they tried the insertion tube. Hate to toot my own horn but her idea is very similar. Looks like they got something cooking now with top hat but the idea she states does have promise.
Posted by SD 71
DeWitt County, Texas
Member since May 2010
56 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 7:16 pm to
No one has answered where they are going to get 2.6 million pounds of down force to keep her "tires" in the hole. When you inflate them with that much pressure below them it would be kind of like a rocket launch. That is the reason "real" engineers are not proposing such stupidity....CNN or Not!!
Posted by MoreOrLes
Member since Nov 2008
19472 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 7:33 pm to
Where to you get 2.6 million pounds of downward force? And NO I did not read this whole thread.

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61079 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 7:55 pm to
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When you inflate them with that much pressure below them it would be kind of like a rocket launch. That is the reason "real" engineers are not proposing such stupidity....CNN or Not!!
Same principle as a bullet in a barrel...
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
39891 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 8:02 pm to
Are these some of those no flat tires?
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5877 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 8:09 pm to
the problem here is not enough vertical riser,and it would take a lot of (tires)or high pressure bladder.dont think a riser could hold well pressure anyway?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
61079 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 8:10 pm to
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Are these some of those no flat tires?
Ha! They should have just pumped Fix-A-Flat instead of mud when they tried to kill the well.
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5329 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:04 pm to
Im not sure which is more alarming, her idea itself or the BP rep saying impressive!
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18290 posts
Posted on 6/7/10 at 9:14 pm to
this is very sad.

I wish her choker was a little tighter around her neck.

Wait, I have a new idea, put a choker around the damaged pipe and slowly twist until you have totally deformed the pipe. It would be like a rubber band but much tougher.

Anyone have CNN's number?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
32791 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 6:35 am to
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I seriously doubt that


have you taken the time to come up with an idea for mitigating the problem? Then travel down there to offer said opinion? If memory serves me, you have a business tied with the oil industry, but unless you have tried to be proactive in looking for a solution, her idea trumps you.
Posted by Tiger Vision
Mandeville
Member since Jan 2005
3806 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 8:16 am to
How about placing a huge magnet on the side of the BOP and shooting steel balls into the BOP.
Posted by SD 71
DeWitt County, Texas
Member since May 2010
56 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 5:23 pm to
Mororless, sorry it took me a while, but I have a day job. The answer is simple hydraulics. Force X Area. It can get way more complicated with engineering and all, but for the time being that IS the number +/- you would need to hold the tire thingy in the hole.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
49516 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 5:27 pm to
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Im not sure which is more alarming, her idea itself or the BP rep saying impressive!

BP rep doesn't mean BP engineer
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18553 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 8:55 pm to
my idea:

mighty putty.

you're welcome, next disaster.
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