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re: Zeta - The cleanup begins

Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:08 am to
Euro has been west all year overdoing ridges
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:09 am to
LC OUT OF THE CONE

Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:11 am to
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:11 am to
Thanks, Duke. This is some high-level, advanced analytics info that should be a lecture to a class in Meteorology.

I am definitely more smart now than I was before I read your info here.

Cheers to you, Big Kahuna.

Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Yet. They're not in the cone YET.


Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Yet. They're not in the cone YET.


My guess is that Lake Charles will be in the cone by Tuesday night. My guess is based on my gut feeling that 2020 is not finished fricking Lake Charles.
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:33 am to
Latest from NWS New Orleans

Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:59 am to
quote:

My guess is based on my gut feeling that 2020 is not finished fricking Lake Charles.


BINGO
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:01 am to


I like how it makes landfall on the Yucatán as a tropical storm and yet emerges on the other side as a hurricane
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:04 am to
That seems unlikely
Posted by stonedbegonias
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:04 am to
Ooh nice, I’m in the eastern wall now.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Dang, that is a lot of "if's and when's".

That's all meteorology is, baw....ifs and whens.
Nevermind all that math, it is just window dressing.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
67168 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:06 am to
quote:

That seems unlikely

It is almost the same path Delta took across the Yucatan. Maybe a bit further south. Delta barely felt that landfall.

Different storm now, of course.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:49 am to
In the cone again

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20622 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:54 am to
Recon not very impressive as most of the deep convection is displaced to the south of the center.

Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:55 am to
Yucatan is mostly flat. A few hundred miles west and it's 10000ft+ high mountains. Damnit Mexico!
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20622 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Euro has been west all year overdoing ridges


Euro actually did pretty good with Delta but it was never an extreme outlier like with Laura.

With Zeta, the Euro is slower with the trough coming in from the west and keeps Zeta weaker. This allows for the lower level flow to steer the system farther west before it finally gets picked up by the incoming trough. The GFS is faster with the trough and has a deeper system. This allows for the system feel the mid-level flow sooner and turn NE. The NHC currently favors the GFS solution.

12z GFS 500mb chart for 00z Wednesday (mid-level steering) shows the trough moving into West Texas and a decent 500mb signature for Zeta. This means that system is deep enough to feel the flow around the 500mb trough which steers the system NE as it approaches landfall.



00z Euro 500mb chart for the same time with a slower trough and not much of a mid-level signature for Zeta. This means the system is shallow and will typically be steered more by the lower levels.



850mb chart shows the flow pushing a weak system into SW LA before the trough eventually picks it up.



This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:44 pm to


This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 12:46 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20622 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:47 pm to
Another model battle setting up with the 12z GFS taking a strong TS or weak hurricane MS/AL and the Euro taking a slopfest into SE TX/SW LA.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
42861 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 1:57 pm to
Yay more model battles
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