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re: Youth baseball: bat that maximizes swing speed or biggest bat they can manage?

Posted on 6/21/24 at 8:50 pm to
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 8:50 pm to
Easton 31x22. EastBay book has them in 4 or 5 different colors.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:05 pm to
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I’m suggesting a bigger barrel along with a shorter inch. Weight is a wash.


It seems the bigger barrel has negligible, if any, benefit as far as making solid contact.




Do bigger barrels tend to hit the ball further? Even if so, it can’t be that big of a difference especially when talking about 7 year olds.

27 inches is what almost all the sizing guides online say a 4 foot tall player should have.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:07 pm to
Do me a favor and keep him in 2 1/4 his entire life then. Jesus.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:08 pm to
Get him the Easton Typhoon 26”. It’s great - lots of pop off the bat
Posted by nicholastiger
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:12 pm to
Keep your dignity
Sign him up for pickleball instead
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:16 pm to
Have him use a bat he's comfortable swinging and doesn't knock him off balance.
Obviously developing good mechanics and making solid contact should be the main focus imo.

If he ends up using a bat that is heavier and is late on his swing, have him open up his stance.

Just remember when middle school baseball starts they use a -3 bat moving forward....and bases/mound increase to 60/90.

Lastly.... 60/90 is a dream killer and -3 bats is the undertaker for many.



Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:16 pm to
If he doesn't have a golf bag full of sticks for every situation, he'll never make the HS team.

Sorry.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:20 pm to
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But my theory is that it’s making him get stronger and having to really focus on using all his muscles to find his balance and power.


Dude he’s a fricking 7 year old

Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29605 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:12 pm to
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What is this mysterious q? The best way to think of it is collision efficiency for a given bat when it collides with a ball on the sweet spot. The higher the q, the faster the baseball will come off the sweet spot of a bat. So the natural question to ask next is what factors impact a bat’s q…

…what matters even more than the weight is Moment of Inertia (MOI). You can think of MOI as perceived swing weight. For a given bat size and weight, if a bat is heavily weighted towards the barrel, it will have a high MOI and therefore be harder to swing. For the same size and weight of bat, a bat with the weight distributed more towards the handle will have a lower MOI and be perceived as lighter and easier to swing.

As already discussed in the last section, increasing q by increasing MOI reduces swing speed. This will often result in a hit ball traveling a shorter distance despite the higher MOI because it becomes much harder to contact the ball with the sweet spot. For many youth hitters, lowering MOI will allow a player to hit the ball squarely on the sweet spot much more often, resulting in hits which travel further despite the lower q of the bat. On the other hand, a strong player with good mechanics may be able to go the other way, swinging a high MOI bat fast enough to make contact and benefiting with hits that go further.


LINK

TL;DR: a ball hit by a slightly longer balanced bat will travel about the same distance as a slightly shorter end loaded bat and there’s likely minimal difference in “ease of swing” between the two.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:18 pm to
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Get him the Easton Typhoon 26”. It’s great - lots of pop off the bat


If Fall ball comes around and the 27/-10 is proving to be too much for him, this is probably what I’ll get to bridge the gap if choking up isn’t working.
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 10:23 pm
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:19 pm to
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Keep your dignity
Sign him up for pickleball instead


I actually just got us a portable pickleball net for our driveway. We haven’t played yet but I look forward to it!
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:34 pm to
If he’s not swinging a repainted green zen, you hate your kid.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15060 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 11:07 pm to
OP.

I coach Rec and have for years. We use the USA bats.

Get him the big barrel that he can swing the easiest and fastest.

Too heavy his form will grow to be shite and he'll be to slow through the zone.

A lot of parents ask me this and they want to go buy these expensive bats that are of no use. I tell them I have bats from the rec I selected they can use. I keep 3.

1 heavy and long
1short and light
1 medium and light

I have each kid swing them then assign them to them all year.

Teach form, keeping hand end then extending through the ball. They'll likely all pick up pitches toonslow at first so a heavy bat they'll always swing late. Let the rec pay for the bat. We have so many there ld and donated I've let kids take them home to practice and if the bat doesn't coke back or something it's not a big deal.

Teach them how to bunt. Then bunt from a pitching machine. It trains his eyes to follow the ball to the bat. A lot of TEE work also. Hand eye will grow quickly.

I've taught a lot of kids to hit with success.
Posted by Teauxler
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 11:09 pm to
Just don’t buy a $300 bat and have a $3 swing .
Posted by Contender54
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:35 am to
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thejudge


I wish I had another upvote to give.
Posted by wmtiger69
west monroe
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:44 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:46 am to
A 27” bat is going to have the bat swinging him. It will reinforce bad mechanics not good ones

25” is the best for 7 year olds IMHO but a 26” is ok
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24105 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:49 am to
Get him a bunch of tennis balls and let him play fungo for a hour in the back yard hittiing against the house. Then go out and throw to him a little harder than he is comfortable with.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:59 am to
Make that kid do Push-ups. Build those muscles. Bat size won't matter.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29605 posts
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:07 am to
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A 27” bat is going to have the bat swinging him. It will reinforce bad mechanics not good ones


He loses his balance probably about 10-15% of the time. He just got it and will grow and get used to the weight. My hope is that by fall ball it will be rare for him to lose balance on the swing.

quote:

25” is the best for 7 year olds IMHO but a 26” is ok


Almost all the guides online say 27”. This one even says 28”. Why do you think there’s that discrepancy between the guides and what the majority of baseball dads online say?

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