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re: You could have spent 1 million dollars every single day since the year 1 AD..

Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:29 am to
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:29 am to
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The national debt is a pointless measure. Who cares what it is? It’s not like anyone can do anything to demand payment?


We pay around $800 billion dollars each year on the interest owed for the national debt. To put that into perspective, we are nearly paying more for our debt interest payments than we do for our department of war.

If the government decided to stop paying interest payments, our credit reputation would tank, causing numerous markets to crash. The treasury market in particular relies on the US government's history of never defaulting on interest payments. Long term impacts would include pensions and social security, a banking crisis (loans, savings, insurance, etc), and the end of the dollar as the global currency.

It bothers me when people think we just "print more money" to avoid paying the debt. Printing money increases the debt, which increases interest payments. When interest payments grow too high, we have to make cuts in other areas. Not to mention inflation that occurs with printing money, which causes more pressure on tax payers to make ends meet, which makes it more difficult for the economy to thrive if they are paying higher taxes to pay interest on the newly printed money.

Right now, we are still the world's largest economy by far and ensure global hegemony with our military. You're right that it's not THAT big of a deal in the short term, but the long term consequences are inevitable. We will eventually accrue too much debt, struggle to make interest payments, and actually feel the consequences.
This post was edited on 3/20/26 at 8:30 am
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:29 am to
Sucks to suck. You gambled on a stable government that is credit worthy.


Investments can lose value. We can’t afford to pay
Posted by bdavids09
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:29 am to
Would cutting back on defense help? You need a strong military but is a trillion a year excessive?
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6586 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:30 am to
With white collar jobs declining growth rate combined with lower birth rates, shift is already happening
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:31 am to
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Sucks to suck. You gambled on a stable government that is credit worthy.


Investments can lose value. We can’t afford to pay


I missed where anyone was given a choice to participate in social security
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6586 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:32 am to
Sucks to suck. Government changes their minds all the time and becomes law. Eat the loss boomer. You had enough opportunities for other areas
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:32 am to
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Sucks to suck. Government changes their minds all the time and becomes law. Eat the loss boomer. You had enough opportunities for other areas


You make BabyTac look credible
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77261 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:33 am to
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It's NOT a handout, dumbass
It is a handout.

The same way any form of welfare is a handout.

The boomer generation saved so poorly and wracked up so much debt that they cannot give up on SS, even though destroying the program would benefit their children and grandchildren.

What a failure of a generation.
This post was edited on 3/20/26 at 8:36 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:35 am to
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It is a handout.


frick man, you too? How is taking my money by force over my working life and giving me back only some of it maybe eventually a "handout?"
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77261 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:37 am to
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frick man, you too? How is taking my money by force over my working life and giving me back only some of it maybe eventually a "handout?"
They take your money by force for all programs.

Is it a handout if someone pays in for years, but then loses their job and needs welfare?

How about think of the future of our country?
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6586 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:38 am to
The generation that entirely depend on social security and government policies the same ones who want to cut them from younger generation so they don’t have to lose their own.



frick them, they’ve had the greatest growth in history for 50+ years and need social security?
This post was edited on 3/20/26 at 8:39 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77261 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:38 am to
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The generation that entirely depend on social security and government policies the same ones who want to cut them from younger generation so they don’t have to lose their own.
100%

They can cry Scruffy a river.
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frick them, they’ve had the greatest growth in history for 50+ years and need social security?
At this point, it is just greed.

A giant middle finger to the country on their way out.
This post was edited on 3/20/26 at 8:40 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89129 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:39 am to
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Is it a handout if someone pays in for years, but then loses their job and needs welfare?



No. But not everyone on welfare meets that definition.
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How about think of the future of our country?


Ok, pay back all contributions with interest and then stop them. Or are you cool just fricking millions of tax payors over?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89129 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:40 am to
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and need social security?


I find it so very interesting that yo think you get to determine what someone who had their money taken from them and were promised what they would get in return needs.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6586 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:40 am to
You dumb mofo if you want the govt to pay that, your dollars will be worthless. Hell you’re dollars are becoming more worthless by the day we’re in debt
This post was edited on 3/20/26 at 8:41 am
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
1547 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:41 am to
Just think, the world’s 1st trillionaire will exist soon.
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
6250 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:41 am to
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You do understand it is Democrat spending and policies that created the debt we are in…. Correct?

Medicare. Medicaid. Social security. Welfare programs. Subsidies.

Emotional downvotes don’t change hard facts


I am in no way defending Democrats, but its not like Republicans become serious about reducing the debt when they're in power. Neither of them give a shite.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89129 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:41 am to
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You dumb mofo if you want the govt to pay that, your dollars will be worthless


So straight up stealing form taxpayers is your answer BabyTac Jr
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77261 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:41 am to
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Or are you cool just fricking millions of tax payors over?
Completely on board with this.

Burn the program to the ground and salt the earth.

I would bet that all younger generations would completely vote to give up SS entirely, including what they already put in, if they never had to deal with it again.

It is the boomers who are unwilling to think beyond their own tiny universes.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89129 posts
Posted on 3/20/26 at 8:43 am to
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I would bet that all younger generations would completely vote to give up SS entirely


Sure, they have basically no skin in the game.
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It is the boomers who are unwilling to think beyond their own tiny universes.


I mean, you're literally doing the same thing. You want to frick a bunch of people over for your benefit. How are you different?
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