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Yesterday marked the 75th anniversary of the beginning of the Battle of Berlin

Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:44 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:44 pm
The endgame of the war in Europe. 2.3 million Russian soldiers closed in on the capital of Nazi Germany against a German defense of some 770,000 men, women, and children. The resulting clash was one of the most savagely intense battles in world history. For 16 days the battle raged in and around the city. When it was over...some 1.1 million people had been killed, wounded, or listed as missing/captured. The Battle of Berlin, coupled with the Battle of Okinawa on the other side of the world, were two of the last great battles in world history.

And it all began 75 years ago.....yesterday.

Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:45 pm to
If you weren't so focused on melting about covid, you could've posted this on the correct day.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71735 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

If you weren't so focused on melting about covid, you could've posted this on the correct day.


It was a failure of incorrect data. For whatever reason, I thought the battle's start date was April 20, but this morning I realized that was the start date for the movie Downfall, not the start date for the actual battle.

Yesterday I thought I still had four days to go. <.<
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:49 pm to


Remember the fallen!
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:51 pm to
This thread won't turn into a shitshow at all.
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
8951 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:53 pm to
We should have nuked the Soviets instead of the Japanese.

Change my mind.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74665 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 1:54 pm to
I cannot recommend this book enough.



It’s the firsthand account of a German teenager who was drafted skit in time to take part in the Battle of Berlin. It’s a fantastic book.
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:06 pm to
The Russians swallowing East Germany after the Wehrmacht was broken was not as significant a WWII battle as the Russians destroying 6th Army at Stalingrad.

Okinawa, on the other hand, was absolutely legit as a legendary battle.
Posted by Manzielathon
Death Valley
Member since Sep 2013
8951 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:12 pm to
He never said Berlin was more significant than Stalingrad.

He said it was the last great battle, alongside Okinawa, of the war.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74665 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

He never said Berlin was more significant than Stalingrad.

He said it was the last great battle, alongside Okinawa, of the war.


Really the fate of Berlin was sealed on the Seelow Heights.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:22 pm to
I've read several books on the last days of Berlin & the immediate days following its fall. Not a humorous subject but I still laff at the stories of Mongol troops taking toilets, faucets, lamps, anything not tied down, back home, no clue as to what made any plumbing fixtures work. Raw savages & as far as I know, I have never seen any stats as to the number of their deaths. Russian generals had them leading every "charge" into the teeth of German defenses, while the Russian troops were held back,
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74665 posts
Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

I've read several books on the last days of Berlin & the immediate days following its fall. Not a humorous subject but I still laff at the stories of Mongol troops taking toilets, faucets, lamps, anything not tied down, back home, no clue as to what made any plumbing fixtures work. Raw savages & as far as I know, I have never seen any stats as to the number of their deaths. Russian generals had them leading every "charge" into the teeth of German defenses, while the Russian troops were held back,


Probably the most horrible aspect of the Soviet invasion of Germany was the widespread rape of female Germans. And the Soviets were not choosy. They raped everything from frail old women to little girls, often in front of their families. It’s been estimated upwards of 2 million women and girls were raped, usually multiple times. And it wasn’t just Germans they went after. There were untold female former concentration camp inmates who once liberated were gang raped. The Red Army was a drunken hoard of animals.
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 2:32 pm to
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