re: WWII hypothetical: could Britain have defeated Germany by itself after June 1940

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Germans would have died in Norilsk

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The Germans didn't need to push any further than the Ural Mountains at the absolute most. The war would have been effectively over and won if the Soviets were falling back and setting up defensive lines on the Asian side of the mountains.

The guy that posted earlier regarding Hitler's motivations is correct which kinda makes the thread moot. There is no scenario where Russia stays out of the war because Hitler's entire goal was to open up the East for Germany.

He just didn't have enough to knock Britian out of the war to secure his rear while he went east. Wouldn't have worked anyway. We'd have still come through Africa and gotten into Europe via the south route.

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How would the Germans get supplies to Vladivostok?

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If the Germans were even having to worry about getting supplies to Vladivostok, then they would not have to worry about fighting the Soviets any longer.

You cant assume neutrality of the Soviet Union since they were invaded by Germany. Germany's dire need of oil caused Hitler to violate his non-aggression pact with Stalin and invade Russia in attempt to gain control of the Caucasus oil fields.

Even with removing Japan and the US from the picture, Germany would have still needed to either successfully defeat the Russians or find an alternative oil source before executing Operation Sea Lion (the planned invasion of Great Britain).

Germany would need more oil to continue their bombing runs on London and their submarines sinking British ships in the Atlantic.

With more oil, the Germans best chance to defeat England would be through a forceful surrender after causing starvation through sinking of the supply ships in the Atlantic and terror through bombings. Even most members of the German High Command believed Operation Sea Lion had a small chance of success with the most powerful Navy in the world defending Great Britian in the English Channel.

This is hypothetical anyway

We beat the Nazis

I just wish after raping and killing in Berlin, we could have caught Hitler

I can name 10 Ural cities if you want

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If the Germans had reached that far east

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Even Hitler knew better than to stay out of Asia at that point. I think he would have established a rough line from Leningrad down through Moscow and Stalingrad, essentially reversing the line the Soviets actually held. Logistically, that makes sense. That's in the Steppe and the further East he pushed, the longer his lines would have gotten.

His fall back might have been Ukraine and if Stalin had been amenable, he might have accepted that as a victor's prize.

But, maybe not.

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I can name 10 Ural cities if you want

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That would mean absolutely nothing to me. The shear fact that you don't seem to comprehend that the Germans weren't going to make some ridiculous push to the Pacific shores of Russia because it would have been completely pointless illustrates that you seem hampered in this discussion by your apparent national pride.

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The shear fact you think Russia would ever give up shows how you're wrong

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Right. Because Russia never gives up. Like in 1917...

And regardless, if the Germans had reached the Ural Mountains, the Soviets could have tried all they wanted but they'd never have pushed the Germans back at that point. Not to mention the possibility of a coup that may have ousted the Communists, which would have been a blessing for mankind.

Blessing to mankind? Lol

We beat Hitler and if Khrushchev and Gorbachev weren't total bitches we would have killed your arse too