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WWII Buffs, Yamato Class BB vis Iowa Class BB
Posted on 2/25/16 at 3:54 am
Posted on 2/25/16 at 3:54 am
As you surely know, aircraft carriers put an end to the battleship era, and these ships never faced each other. However, the Navy acquired some armor from an unfinished third Yamato Class ship after the war for testing purposes. This is what a 16 inch shell did to it. It's on display at the US Navy Museum.
As for what Yamato's 18 inch guns would have done to American battleships, we'll never know. However, it's known that they had quality control problems with their shells, and the slightly smaller American guns had a higher rate of fire and nearly the same range as the Japanese guns.
As for what Yamato's 18 inch guns would have done to American battleships, we'll never know. However, it's known that they had quality control problems with their shells, and the slightly smaller American guns had a higher rate of fire and nearly the same range as the Japanese guns.
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Posted on 2/25/16 at 5:02 am to Jim Rockford
There would never have been a one-to-one battle. Neither ship sailed without lots of other ships.
It would have really sucked to be on either side of the armor after a hit like that.
It would have really sucked to be on either side of the armor after a hit like that.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 5:31 am to foshizzle
Some of the metrics from those 18" Japanese dunks are just mind boggling.
Japanese vs US carrier technology and design is more interesting IMO. The differences between each had HUGE impacts throughout WWII and most especially at Midway.
Japanese vs US carrier technology and design is more interesting IMO. The differences between each had HUGE impacts throughout WWII and most especially at Midway.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 6:24 am to foshizzle
If the battle is day or night would make a difference. For most of the war, Japanese night fighting was better than ours. By the time the Iowas came on line not so much but might be a slight factor.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 6:40 am to Jim Rockford
I'll take the Iowa Class BB. The 16" guns are no pea-shooter and they had one of the most advanced (for the time) firing systems that could put the shells on target. It doesn't matter how big the shell is, if it lands in the water away from the target.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 6:47 am to Jim Rockford
Wow, good question. As your pic shows, the Iowa's 16" guns could pen the Yamato. But on the other hand, the Yamato's 18" guns could likewise pen the Iowa. And the Yamato's guns outranged those of the Iowa by a few miles. But on the other hand the Iowa was faster, more maneuverable, and thus harder to hit. I think the battle would come down to two factors, who has the better fire control and better damage control. In both these areas the Iowa was heads and shoulders above the Yamato.
Having said all this, I think in a battle between these two ships the Iowa would probably come out on top thanks to its greater ability to hit its target on a consistent basis and its ability to control the damage it sustains. However it would be no sure thing. A few hits from the Yamato's guns on key areas could have tipped the scales.
Having said all this, I think in a battle between these two ships the Iowa would probably come out on top thanks to its greater ability to hit its target on a consistent basis and its ability to control the damage it sustains. However it would be no sure thing. A few hits from the Yamato's guns on key areas could have tipped the scales.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 6:51 am to Darth_Vader
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Having said all this, I think in a battle between these two ships the Iowa would probably come out on top thanks to its greater ability to hit its target on a consistent basis and its ability to control the damage it sustains. However it would be no sure thing. A few hits from the Yamato's guns on key areas could have tipped the scales.
Agree 100%
Posted on 2/25/16 at 6:53 am to Jim Rockford
Might as well have made it out of fiberglass.
Posted on 2/25/16 at 6:59 am to weaveballs1
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Might as well have made it out of fiberglass.
What that picture illustrates is just how obsolete the big, heavily armored battleship had become by the 1940's. When you factor in how expensive they were to build, add in the massive number of men required to crew them, and then consider how vulnerable they were to everything from bombs, torpedos, and the main armament of other first class BB's, they just don't make sense to build a fleet around.
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