re: WWE Monday Night Raw Thread: Superstar Shake-Up Edition

What a TERRIBLE ending to Raw.

AJ is staying on SD! Nakamura match confirmed!

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so KO and Y2J to SD?

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I was thinking about that. And it'd be great to have a SD match on a Raw ppv because of horrible decision making.

Shoulda had Ambrose drop the belt last week.

Jericho is about to leave to go on tour

A couple of crazy ideas.

So it'll be Orton vs. Wyatt at Payback. If Wyatt wins it leaves SD without any male singles titles. So Orton stays on SD but drops the title, and SD gets Lesnar. Or Orton retains and Lesnar stays on Raw.

Also SD gets Jericho but not Owens. They still have a match at Payback but Jericho take the title to SD. Or vice versa SD gets Owens but not Jericho and he retains.

Either way seems they need to do something with the titles.

Also Jericho on SD would somewhat makeup for the loss of the Miz.

so what's the "wrestling twitter" response to the crowd during the Reigns/Strowman segment?

Have not checked.

Maybe RIP Roman.

And it seems it doesn't matter if a guy is on SD as he can still wrestle at Payback (Orton and likely at least one of Owens/Jericho).

So Reigns to SD could still be a thing (and it seems like they "wrote" him off Raw). That match still goes down at Payback if one of Reigns/Strowman moves.

And to recap Raw's adds:

Crews
Hawkins
Kalisto
Rhyno and Slater
Bliss
James
Ambrose
Miz and Maryse
Wyatt

So they got a:
Face jobber
Heel jobber
Cruiserweight
Gimmick tag team
Top woman heel
Top? woman face (depends how they push her)
Midcard face champ (who could switch to top card status)
Midcard heel (who could switch to top card status) and hot wife
Top heel (who could switch to mid card)

They definitely got some nice singles pieces (men and women), but other than that it was junk.

SD has a shot to break even, if not come out on top. They will definitely win the tag swap, and will likely break even with the women. The men's singles will determine the overall winner. They lost a lot there and need to make it up.

I expect SD to get at least 2 tag teams and 2 women. They'll also get at least 4 men's singles.

The have Alpha and Usos, so I'm guessing New Day, The Club, and/or Enzo and Caz. At least two but maybe all 3.

For the women I'm guessing Charlotte and either Banks or Brooke. I'm leaning Brooke because Charlotte/Banks has been run through (though Banks and Lynch against Charlotte and Natty could be interesting) and I think they want to do a Banks/Bailey feud.

BUT Raw has Bliss, Jax, and Emma as heels, with James potentially swinging either way. So maybe a Banks heel turn overloads things. Or maybe Banks stays and stays face.

Either way unless they do some turns I can't see 2 women heels coming to SD.

And that brings us to the men's singles.

I could see R Truth being brought in as a jobber and Golddust disappearing.

Definitely think one of Owens/Jericho comes over. I see it being more Jericho to fill the Miz void, and Miz and Jericho would be too much overlap on Raw.

Zayn seems like another mid carder headed over.

And with SD losing Wyatt I definitely see them gaining at least one top guy. Whether that's Reigns, Rollins, Strowman, or Lesnar I don't know.

I really want a reason to love wrestling again, but damn most of these guys these days are just so bad on the microphone.

Why is Orton vs wyatt for the wwe title on payback? Isn't payback a raw ppv? Why would smackdown allow their champion to defend it on a raw ppv and risk losing their only heavy weight championship?

Because Wyatt is owed a rematch (and the feud wasn't over).

And it's an angle I didn't consider. I didn't see both Wyatt and Orton going to Raw, so I also didn't see Lesnar as possibly SD bound.

But now that it's revealed SD guys can fight at Payback (in cases of matches already booked) I can definitely see the following:

Lesnar goes to SD.

Wyatt beats Orton.

Wyatt starts feuding with Balor.

Balor gets the belt (at their first or second ppv match).

Balor eventually (maybe many months later) succumbs to Wyatt calling to his dark side and the Demon King joins the Wyatt Family.

Either Orton starts feuding with Lesnar again, or they bring in Reigns also to feud with Lesnar starting after Payback (or maybe later if they start Orton/Lesnar to carry it a couple of months before Reigns/Lesnar is setup for Summerslam).

I think we'll have a good idea of how this all goes down tonight. It was VERY odd for Lesnar not to be on Raw. He shows up and Wyatt gets the title. If he doesn't Orton keeps it.

And on that same note SD will get either Owens or Jericho. My money is on Jericho and he wins the belt at Payback. If Owens goes to SD he keeps the belt.

I think one of Reigns/Strowman also goes to SD, and my money is on Reigns. Looking at last night they basically killed his character off of Raw. Unless they just REALLY wanted to hype the Payback match.