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re: WWE Monday Night Raw Thread: It's Time for the Night After 'Mania Edition

Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Run Ultra
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:27 am to
Jey is not going to be universal champion
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:36 am to
Yep, you don't need titles for Roman/Jey or Roman/Rock, since the WWE wants that so much. Cody was scorching hot and it's going to be tough to get that back. You actually don't need anymore Cody/Roman story than what was given. It was a perfect time to start off Cody with the titles and feuds with other people that actually show up regularly. You could even loop back around to another Cody/Roman match at WrestleMania next year.
This post was edited on 4/4/23 at 9:37 am
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:37 am to
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Clearly you haven't seen the WWE crowd reactions to Cody....it is night and day different from AEW


The one note cody promos, the pompus attitudes, the doing it for my family shite... especially after he wins the strap... fans are going to turn fast.

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It was Cody, as a face, losing to scrubs like Darby Allin in AEW that killed him


He booked himself into a corner not allowing himself to challenge for the world championship. He lost the crowd completely when he challenged odobo with his "I solved racism" promo as well. He was the first guy to face any new person in the company (Eddie, Black, Lee, Andrade, etc) and normally would win the feuds. He refused to turn heel when he obviously was playing into a fake "face of america" borderline homelander character. And his run thus far in wwe is just a continuation of that character. It's going to happen sooner than later.

Jey and Jimmy are insanely talented workers with great mic skills. Every major tag team (normally) has a break, and logically the bloodline storyline concludes with jimmy and jey (jey, specifically) getting their due in regards to roman. Solo is going to remain the heater, but the usos are going to get the rocket strapped to them.








This is a perfect world scenario, but who knows. Sami and Cody were both fed in a matter of 2 months to reigns who has absolutely no one to feud with outside of jey.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:40 am to
Some of what you said was true....but like someone said earlier...neither Uso will be WWE or Universal Champion in the next 5 years at least.

Cody, Bron, Matt Riddle, Orton, Miz, and Big E (assuming he can get back) will all have title runs before an Uso will....I'd bet my house on it.
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:41 am to
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Cody, Bron, Matt Riddle, Orton, Miz, and Big E (assuming he can get back) will all have title runs before an Uso will....I'd bet my house on it.


I can see cody winning at summerslam after a feud with brock leading into orton/cody. That seems like the "safer" wwe feud imho.


But it should still end with jey.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:46 am to
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Miz


Miz will never have another HW/ Universal title run again.
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:49 am to
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Miz will never have another HW/ Universal title run again.



Hell, Miz is never going to win another main event feud ever again. Maybe a match here or there, but he's going to end his career laying on his back.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:52 am to
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reigns who has absolutely no one to feud with outside of jey.


I think they will come back to Cody when Reigns gets back from his break although it won't be as hot.

I'm not sure Cody wins the title at this point. I think they can go to Reigns v Orton when Orton gets back. I know Orton will get another title run before he hangs up his boots, but I'm not sure it will come at the expense of Reigns.

They have feuds for Reigns, they've just backed themselves into a corner now for getting the title off of him.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:52 am to
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Miz will never have another HW/ Universal title run again.


I'd bet a lot of money that he will.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:54 am to
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But it should still end with jey.


I think the thing with Jey will lead into the involvement of the Rock and potentially Rikishi....they've teased that for a while too.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:56 am to
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They have feuds for Reigns, they've just backed themselves into a corner now for getting the title off of him.



100%. There's so much Bloodline story that you can do with no titles.
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:02 am to
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100%. There's so much Bloodline story that you can do with no titles.


Most of which will be done sans roman and with solo/the usos. I just have this feeling that they're grooming Sefa Fatu to be reigns replacement once he goes part time. Bloodline story wise I mean.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:10 am to
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I just have this feeling that they're grooming Sefa Fatu to be reigns replacement once he goes part time.


Well then the Bloodline storyline is essentially over then.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:24 am to
I kind of agree with that....although the problem with that is as good as Cody is and as over as he is as a face he isn't 2012 John Cena. He also doesn't have the likes of CM Punk, Big Show, Del Rio, etc (all 2012 versions of these guys) to get him all the way around the circle back to the main guy (Reigns today...Rock for Cena in 12/13).
This post was edited on 4/4/23 at 10:25 am
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:33 am to
I think a lot of this depends on how much time Reigns is taking off. If he can come back and get heated up by Summerslam I suspect (unfortunately) we will probably have to deal with Bork v Cody for the next 3 PLEs.

We'll get a singles contest in PR that Bork wins. Then in Saudi we might have some kind of tag match that involves a Bloodline member to get that story kind of heating back up maybe, and then in London Cody gets his win and Bork goes away (maybe for good).

Then we get off and running with Cody and Reigns to Summerslam.

I think that could work....i don't think you lose everything you gained from the Bloodline/Cody feud if you pay it off in that time frame. However, if you want to string that out to Rumble or Mania 40....phewww I'm not sure what kind of gas it has left for Cody at that point.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:37 am to
In the meantime, you're trying to fill like 5 hours of weekly tv and have part time guys as the faces of the company. You can't draw things out this long with that kind of TV time to fill. Hell even in the Roman/Cody build as short as it was, Roman was only on TV a few times.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 6:56 pm to
Raw drew 2.26 million viewers last night and a .76 rating in the key demographic.

Clearly the WM finish didn’t scare off viewers….we’ll see if the actual Raw itself did.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:41 pm to
Why won’t they do a Roman vs. OMOS match.
Posted by MSUDawg98
Bear the F Down
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/4/23 at 9:56 pm to
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Well y'know they say that anything after 7 years is fair game for reuse and yeah...they do that often.
Yet dipshits like you love a mark booker who pays others to live out his cosplay dreams with his daddy's money. (Not to mention 2 EVPs who think wrestling is about flippy shite and 1 EVP who has a fetish for pre-teen looking Japanese girls.) Hate to tell you but wrestling like you THINK you like died when Vince killed the territories. Greg wouldn't have treated what Verne left him like what Jr did to Sr. (In hindsight it's a shame Sr's partners in the NWA didn't do to Vince what they should've.)

I flipped over for the last 8 minutes of NXT and it was damn near the same ending as RAW. It appears as though Vince has vetoed Bron's call-up. I guess Cora Jade is back to. So it's looking like SD will be the return of Vince's "greatest hits".

Fightful Select is so worth the $5 this month. Reading about the shitshow backstage is better than 3/4 of the dramas on the networks. The only thing in pro wrestling that is coming up and worth any interest is MITB and even that is going to end up being an afternoon show.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 4/4/23 at 10:02 pm to
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Why won’t they do a Roman vs. OMOS match.

Because Omos sucks.
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