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re: WSJ/NYT - US & Israel Strike Tehran

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Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 9:36 pm to
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Yeah, by a bunch of people that are criminally liable in the Epstein files. Don’t believe this. We are not “One Nation Under God”; we are “One Nation Under Blackmail.”


So you just ignore the fact that even Grok said the post was inaccurate and exaggerated take on the ICC warrants.

It’s along standing policy against the ICC’s agenda and not just about Israel.
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The United States had a fraught relationship with the ICC even before it opened for business in 2002. As President Bill Clinton was leaving office, he signed the court’s Rome Statute, stating, “I believe that a properly constituted and structured International Criminal Court would make a profound contribution in deterring egregious human rights abuses worldwide, and that signature increases the chances for productive discussions with other governments to advance these goals in the months and years ahead.”

But Clinton urged incoming President George W. Bush to refrain from sending it to the Senate for advice and consent to ratification. Bush went even further and, in an unprecedented move, unsigned the treaty on behalf of the United States. Since then, the U.S. has consistently tried to undermine the ICC.

In 2003, Congress passed and Bush signed the American Service-Members’ Protection Act, which is known as “The Hague Invasion Act.” It says that if a U.S. or allied national is detained by the ICC in The Hague, Netherlands, the U.S. military can use armed force to extricate them.


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When he was president, Donald Trump imposed sanctions on ICC prosecutors in a reprisal against the court’s investigations of Israeli leaders, and investigations of U.S. officials for war crimes committed in Afghanistan. Although President Joe Biden reversed Trump’s order in 2021, he reiterated the U.S. government’s “longstanding objection to the Court’s efforts to assert jurisdiction” over Israeli and U.S. personnel.

The Biden administration, which has sent at least $17.9 billion in military aid to Israel since October 7, 2023, denounced the charges against Netanyahu and Gallant. A spokesperson for the National Security Council said in a statement that the ICC has no jurisdiction over Israel, the U.S. is consulting with Israel on “next steps,” and “The United States fundamentally rejects the court’s decision to issue arrest warrants for senior Israeli officials.”

…Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) responded to the arrest warrants by invoking The Hague Invasion Act. “Woe to him and anyone who tries to enforce these outlaw warrants,” he warned. “Let me give them all a friendly reminder: the American law on the ICC is known as The Hague Invasion Act for a reason. Think about it.”

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Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 9:47 pm to
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Here’s former Israeli PM Naftali Bennett saying they need to invade Turkey next


Did you actually watch the video?

I did, and these words were not spoken.



That Turkey is the next Iran, and they just bombed Iran. Israel deserves no benefit of the doubt and have shown us who they really are.




So you admit the below words that you said he said in the video are not actually said in the video.
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Here’s former Israeli PM Naftali Bennett saying they need to invade Turkey next


I have seen you do this multiple times already. Your word about what something says in article or video in included tweets you post means very little at this point. You go by what the x profile says is stated in the article or video and expect people here to do the same.
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Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 9:49 pm to
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Because Israel wants Iran to be consumed in civil war and be Balkanized. Israel is here to destroy the country and not just the regime
This is just fricking stupid. Why would Israel want LESS stability in their neighborhood? Do yourself a favor....I won't ask you to attempt to read... go to YouTube and watch a video on Iran's history. The past 47 years are the exception to millenia of Persian/Iranian history. Iran is where all of the hardline "Death to Israel" cult members went after the test of the middle eastern governments slowly accepted Israel's right to exist. If the crown prince were to return in a transition to a full democracy there would be no more wars in the Middle East. The IRGC is the lynchpin for all of the anti-semites in the region. Get rid of them and you get rid of the biggest threat to progress.
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 9:53 pm to
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former Israeli PM Naftali Bennett
Not in government and since Israel is a democracy, not representative of the Israeli people.
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 9:55 pm to
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Oh this is real rich, because apparently while we were posting, Naftali Bennett was asked that again, and here was his response:

Apparently you did not watch this video either.

He even said he wanted peace, but ultimately that was up to Turkey. He then said something if they want to surround us with furor that they will not sit idle.


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Posted on 3/10/26 at 10:01 pm to
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OMLandshark


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dallastigers


Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 10:02 pm to
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Why would Israel want LESS stability in their neighborhood?


So they can be the cop and take it all over.
Why? Why would they want to take over an Arab country? Why would they want to create another West Bank in a country where they don't share a common border?

Why are you acting like such an anti-semite in here? Did Lindsey fail to give you the common courtesy of a reach around on that day? You are arguing the same things over and over while showing no sign of being able to engage in a legitimate debate. If you want to keep doing that go on a retreat to the Poli Board. Those arguing with him, it's freaking insanity.... making the same arguments and expecting anything to change with him.
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 10:03 pm to
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Take the L dude. That second video shows you that everything I said was right. But I’m supposed to believe YOU over my own lying eyes and ears, Orwell.


You are losing it again. The video did no such thing. You are hearing what you want to hear. Take your meds as you are approaching your manic phase.

I have tried to be nice and point things out to help, but at this point I think it would be best to not only let you burn out again but to help you do it quicker.

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Posted by RIPMachoMan
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 10:21 pm to
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I’m done here.


Do you promise?

My god man y’all two need to chill
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Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 10:36 pm to
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Why? Why would they want to take over an Arab country? Why would they want to create another West Bank in a country where they don't share a common border?

They don't according to this guy who has some interesting conclusions.
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Not to totality agree since he leaves out Trump*.... but he makes some good geographic and geopolitical points.

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