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re: WSJ: LSU's Lazy River and the Student-Fee Sham

Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:32 pm to
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You a cheerleader, bro. Nothing is more embarrassing than that.


Hanging onto hot chicks is embarrassing?

Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:32 pm to
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I'm not sure what this means?


Cheerleading is a message board tactic where you don't make an argument yourself, but rather "cheer on" someone who is making an argument. That's you. That's what you're doing.

Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Because those "tax cuts" are actually tax increases for many people.



False.

It's ok. You've now outed yourself as a total imbecile. Have a nice day.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11637 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:32 pm to
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The funny part is that when it comes to citizenship, you would almost certainly argue against raising taxes (based on what I know about your ideology from the poli board).


There is a difference between rasing my taxes for a benefit I will never see and raising a fee for something I could make direct use of. No I don't want my taxes raised in BR because all of that will go to NBR. No I don't want my taxes raised nationally because it goes to culcha, not OT baws.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Hanging onto hot chicks is embarrassing?


Are you calling yourself a hot chick? I don't know, but I doubt you are very hot.

Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:33 pm to
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Have a nice day.


Same to you, buddy.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
29145 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:34 pm to
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It is one of the most conservative newspapers out there.


No, they aren't no where near conservative as people think. I'd say more on the evens.


It's like people who think Fox Sports is a conservative view of sports world, Fox sports is a liberal as ESPN, they just aren't far left progressives.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:35 pm to
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No, they aren't no where near conservative as people think. I'd say more on the evens.


Fair argument, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that point.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29215 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:37 pm to
Agreed, Infowars and Breitbart are the only truth-leaning media outlets, along with Rush Limbaugh.

I'll go ahead and edit OP to put a disclaimer in there that WSJ is a liberal rag.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:37 pm to
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There is a difference between rasing my taxes for a benefit I will never see and raising a fee for something I could make direct use of. No I don't want my taxes raised in BR because all of that will go to NBR. No I don't want my taxes raised nationally because it goes to culcha, not OT baws.


I guess that's a fair point, Bayou. But the pool is rather frivolous, don't you think? It's a bit over the top. Something distasteful about it. And it will contribute to fee increases that raise the overall cost of education.

So when you're paying through the nose for your kid to go to LSU, make sure they are using the frick out of that lazy river.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29590 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Cheerleading is a message board tactic where you don't make an argument yourself, but rather "cheer on" someone who is making an argument. That's you. That's what you're doing.



I've proven you wring on three separate things in this thread? I disagree with some of what CptBengal has said as well, but you're just embarrassing yourself by dieing on hills that you have no knowledge about.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:38 pm to
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Agreed, Infowars and Breitbart are the only truth-leaning media outlets


Y'all are crazy.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:39 pm to
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I've proven you wring on three separate things in this thread?


You haven't done shite, cheerleader.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29590 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:41 pm to
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You haven't done shite, cheerleader.



1. You said the construction fee doesn't go away- false
2. You said you didnt change your arguement from the fee not going away to fee increases outpacing what they should be- flase
3. I showed you that people pay for things all the time they didn't vote to implement
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:45 pm to
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1. You said the construction fee doesn't go away- false


I said the fees will never go down. Nobody has proven that wrong.

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2. You said you didnt change your arguement from the fee not going away to fee increases outpacing what they should be- flase



I never changed my argument, sorry.

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3. I showed you that people pay for things all the time they didn't vote to implement



That was a fair point. But it doesn't change the underlying problem which is the rising cost of higher education. The lazy river doesn't help with those costs.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38798 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:45 pm to
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people whining about losing tax deductibility on TAF donations (It's about the kids... muh Student Athletes!).

Jokes on you. LSU let us season ticket holders pay for our 2018 tickets last week so we can deduct it in 2017.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:46 pm to
Summary:

People got defensive of LSU, attacked criticism of extravagant lazy river even though it contributes to increased costs.

/thread
Posted by HollyWoodCole
CA
Member since Nov 2017
1255 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:48 pm to
Have you floated around in the pool?
Have you utilized the new upgrades that came with it (climbing wall, track, weight rooms, etc.)?
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11637 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:49 pm to
Yes I think the pool is a bit extra haha. The money definitely could of been used in a better way like fixing Middleton sooner. But the students voted for it and I agree with the process.

However, I hope you realize that students/parents pay fees for a crap load of amenities at LSU. Thounds of students pay fees for things they will never use or only use once.(LSU public transportation, LSU radio, newspaper, performing arts, crisis phone, yearbook, nighttime activies like concerts, public speakers, etc)

Also understand that the UREC upgrades are what millennials' want. Believe it or not that "silly pool" and UREC extras are big selling points for getting new students to go to LSU
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 12:56 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34312 posts
Posted on 12/16/17 at 12:54 pm to
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I hope you realize that students/parents pay fees for a crap load of amenities at LSU


No doubt, and that is part of the point WSJ is making. Student fees reflect a new approach by the major public university to provide an all-encompassing campus experience. They used to be rather minimal. But as universities add more and more "campus life" type stuff, the fees have increased exponentially.

It is one of several underlying causes of skyrocketing higher education costs, with the biggest one being the growing administrative function of the university. But that, too, is arguably a manifestation of the same phenomenon: As the university seeks to provide that all-encompassing campus experience, it needs more and more administrative staff to do so.

Universities have essentially created a parasitic economic sector of administrative and service workers who, from my experience, have an ironically negative view of both students and faculty. But the central point is that the university could still function without much of this parallel economy, and it would cost a lot less. Any attempt at reform in higher education must start there.

Just my perspective.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 12:56 pm
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