re: Would moving from a clean bulk to a dirty bulk be a good move?

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What he says is probably bro science to guys in here, but I was seeing changes within days. Good changes. My chest is getting bigger and my abs are coming back.

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well, share the wealth! I'm on a diet though so no gainz for me. On that keto.

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abs

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Gay

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'm almost 99% sure at your height/weight you're not truly eating 3000 calls OR you're under estimating your activity factor. Just curious do you do cardio?

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I track everything I eat so I know exactly how much I've eaten and have left to eat in a given day.

I haven't run in a while other than 400m runs and shuttle sprints, but I'm on the rower and aerodyne machine a decent amount.

Just cut out all the cardio. Have you tried that?

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And sleep.

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Let's take apart the typical - stress, rest/recover, improve part of the cycle - Americans just opt out of sleep. If someone was training correctly, eating correctly (and enough) and even resting muscle groups according to known training principles - and not making gains - I would first evaluate if this is an expected plateau. If so, this would be the trigger to go into active rest for a week or so and shake everything up for the next cycle.

But, the very next thing I would do would be get the athlete to keep a sleep log for a couple of weeks. Sleep, even for adults, is the most important rest interval - across the entire range of health, which also includes fitness.

I made my best muscle (not weight) gains when I was sleeping in shifts - I would sleep 3 or 4 hours at the end of the workday - lift (and cardio) in the middle of the night and sleep again from about 0400 to 0900. It was more out of necessity and I was probably overtraining at one point. But, I have to admit, I was never in better shape in my life, and I was mid-30s then.

I was worried about the overtraining thing the time I was finishing my cardio workout, watching the local nationals start to clean up the gym for the third time while I had been there. There had only been 1 other person there the entire time - probably the end of a 3-hour session.

Whew. I get tired just thinking about it.

That makes sense. I'll start doing that for sure. Thanks.

That was going to be my recommendation


If you're eating that much/lifting and are still that skinny maybe that's just the body type you're stuck with