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re: Would a $500+ car note break the bank for you?

Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:09 pm to
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:09 pm to
New cars are for suckers. Worst investment there is
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17846 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:10 pm to
Wouldn’t break the bank but it would put a hurting on my savings
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60592 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:11 pm to
You can admit you’re wrong. It’s not a big deal.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

New cars are for suckers. Worst investment there is



Sure is. And I love mine. I'm a happy sucker every time I get behind the wheel.

Don't want an RV. Don't hunt or fish. Don't want to go around the world. Don't want a motorcycle right now for various reasons. Gotta have something I enjoy and I've always been in love with automobiles. I don't regret that purchase one bit. One of the best I ever made, mater of fact.

But damn, not even 25k on the first set of tires and they're shot.

frick it, I fully well knew what I was getting into.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 9:21 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

New cars are for suckers. Worst investment there is


Well its not an investment, so...
Posted by ulsaint
Member since Oct 2007
2460 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:30 pm to
Ok not an investment but still terrible value. Just buy a year or two old
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:33 pm to
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Ok not an investment but still terrible value


Not really, as always it depends
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78354 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:40 pm to
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You can admit you’re wrong. It’s not a big deal.


I agree that the note says 0.0% APR. Just not foolish enough to think I got free money.

Im not paying interest over the whole length of the loan, I am paying it all up front. Which is sort of a worse deal.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:42 pm to
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I agree that the note says 0.0% APR. Just not foolish enough to think I got free money.

Im not paying interest over the whole length of the loan, I am paying it all up front. Which is sort of a worse deal.


You negotiate the price before financing is even discussed dumbass. If i walk in pre qualified through my bank or finance through the dealerships credit department I'm financing the same amount just at a different rate. This is really really fricking simple.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51740 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:45 pm to
My current car, a Ford Explorer Platinum, had a $6500 discount from the dealer, a $5000 rebate from the manufacturer, and 0%/60 month interest from Ford (for well qualified buyers. My FICO score was 820 at the time.

Paid $10k down. Still paying $660 a month.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 9:46 pm
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21220 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:47 pm to
I’ve never went longer than 60 months. 84 WTF

I guess if you had 0.0% interest it wouldn’t matter since your paying principle the whole time but if you have any interest on it then that’s just more $$$$ for the financing agency
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78354 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:48 pm to
Trust me when I say this, the dealership is not giving you free money.

You aren't some master negotiator.

The finance people do it all day and know how much they need to take you for on the price or the financing.

If you are getting 0.0% financing you bet your arse you didn't get the lowest price you could have. The finance guy will tell you that you didn't qualify for whatever damn reason.

I have had the joy/displeasure of meeting a couple finance guys in a casual environment and hearing their dick measuring tactics is enough to make me realize that 99.9% of us are jist believing we are getting a good deal.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 9:52 pm
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61147 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:51 pm to
I went 120 months on my Silverado.

Now it’s been paid off 8 years.

#Winning.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:53 pm to
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Trust me when I say this, the dealership is not giving you free money.


Yes they are to move inventory. If I finance with my bank they get exactly $0 if interest income on that transaction, but they have no idea until the car is sold so they can't price that in.

quote:

You aren't some master negotiator.


You don't have to be, it's either a customer acquisition cost or a way to control inventory holding costs.

quote:

The finance people do it all day and know how much they need to take you for on the price or the financing.


They have no control over how much I pay or how I finance it.

quote:

I have had the joy/displeasure of meeting a couple finance guys in a casual environment and hearing their dick measuring tactics is enough to make me realize that 99.9% of us are jist believing we are getting a good deal.


I'm sure they had no bias or reason to stretch the truth.

You are truly an idiot.

This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 9:54 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78354 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:55 pm to
So you are getting 0.0% finance not going through the dealership financing?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60592 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:56 pm to
you don't understand the relationship between the dealer (and even the salesman and F&I guy) and the lender (usually owned by the manufacturer) providing 0.0% APR
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78354 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:57 pm to
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you don't understand the relationship between the dealer (and even the salesman and F&I guy) and the lender (usually owned by the manufacturer) providing 0.0% APR


The concept of free money is all you need to understand. There is no such thing as free money.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:59 pm to
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The concept of free money is all you need to understand. There is no such thing as free money


In your completely ridiculous scenario they are eating the interest income. You can just say it's financed at 3% and they are paying the interest if that helps get through to your slack jawed brain.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78354 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:01 pm to
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they are eating the interest income.


So, in other words, they are losing money to give you a car.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/20/19 at 10:04 pm to
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So, in other words, they are losing money to give you a car.


Well no because you aren't forced to finance through them anyway, but ignoring that they would be either a) making less to move inventory or b) making more because it costs more to hold the car on the lot than not earn interest income.
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