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re: Women who are childless at the age of 30
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:57 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:57 am to Crowknowsbest
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OK, but a lot of people view providing a certain standard of living as a key component of responsibly bringing kids into the world. That’s very reasonable imo
You can think it’s reasonable, other people can disagree. It’s a philosophical as well as practical question. I’m sure most people start with the answer instead of the question, ie they start with the conclusion that it’s better to be in a good financial position (meaning nearly guaranteed to be at a very high standard of living compared to the rest of the world and all of human history) before they marry and have children, and they never seriously question the idea.
It doesn’t change the fact that this viewpoint/expectation is going to leave a lot of women out in the cold, which is bad for everyone.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 9:58 am
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Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:07 am to JasonDBlaha
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I’ve said it multiple times already: the biggest mistake this country made was giving women the right to vote. When it comes to politics, women vote with emotion and feelings rather than logic and reasoning.
The real mistake was giving every single person the right to vote. A moron is going to vote like a moron whether they are male or female. We'd be better off screening for a baseline of intelligence as well as taxes paid. I don't understand why people should get to vote if they don't have skin in the game.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:31 am to CoyoteSong
I sometimes wonder why people think it’s more acceptable to be divorced with children than it is unmarried/childless
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:32 am to sidewalkside
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Ah yes...old white men lecturing on women's choices and reproductive outcomes. classic
Ah yes....facts getting all up in your feels
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:52 am to RogerTheShrubber
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And crying about student loans and low pay.
Maybe they should have done manual work (women lolol) instead of getting that social worker degree.
It’s not their fault.
They’re doing what they were told to, and they’re gravitating towards degrees which reflect their basic natures, women are nurturing, so social work for example is emotionally appealing.
Ultimately I think we have a cultural problem, and we have gone wrong as men to let this happen.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 10:56 am
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:00 am to WestCoastAg
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They need to stop doing these things. for their own good
They have been sold a lie, you can’t have a career, and a family. It’s not possible. Further, your career will will not bring you any fulfillment. And your career will absolutely not increase your status. Men don’t care what you do. Insofar as it delays marriage, and you’re older when you do marry, it hurts your value. You won’t marry as well.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I totally agree.
Same with abortion, do you really want women who abort kids raising children?
Some things are for the best. As people become separated from nature, they become less fit to parent.
Yes. I used to be against abortion. Now I want government funded abortion clinics on every corner and cash payments for sterilization.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 11:44 am to CoyoteSong
Wife and I are age 33. Been trying for a kid for 1.5 years. Wish we started trying earlier if I knew it would take this long. We have both been busy in our careers. We both make good money and have a lot saved. I highly doubt we would have been able to save as much as we have if we had a kid since she would not be able to work.
Posted on 8/11/23 at 12:25 pm to CoyoteSong
95+ percent of my 3 kids friends were conceived by couples at like 29-30 and later. The ones born to younger parents all seem to have a pretty active grandparent in their life either financially or logistically. We're slightly upper middle class and I feel like it's becoming the norm. We weren't even ultra career oriented but didn't want to bring kids in the world with 90k in student loan debt which we paid off before buying a house/thinking about kids (I was 30 she was 28). My wife was 30, 32, and 35 when they were born and we were married for 5 years before trying.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 12:30 pm
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