re: Woman whines about passport bros

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Well when they know there are guys youd give arse to for nothing at all then you cant blame them. Why bother torturing the poor soul? Free food?

Men have learned that there ARE men women would totally rip their clothes off for and theyre not going to play silly courtship games.

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So you don't want a slut and openly shame women for putting out but then also complain if women aren't putting out on the first date?

That doesn't send mixed signals or anything.

Tooth just proved that it is a transactional thing in his last post.

Again… pay a sex worker

He complains bc he knows “other men get it”

Again… who is playing victim?

Also, a lot goes back to men not being willing to work on themselves to make themselves the partner women want. Easier to blame women.

Keep posting.

This is fun.

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So you don't want a slut and openly shame women for putting out but then also complain if women aren't putting out on the first date?

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The sex standard is set by women. If you have ripped your clothes off for zero then thats the standard because whatever that guy had led to him getting the most prized thing you have to offer.

When you turn around and do not offer the same to other men it suggests you are not into them.


It is what it is.

On the other hand, if you are a woman who has never done that, then you can demand more courtship.

But, like I said, most western women have banged a guy for absolutely nothing and the men sense this. So its not the sex on the first date thats the problem, its the guy you're on a date with thats the determining factor.

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Poll after poll

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this is dumb - we all know statistics can be manipulated

I have never been given a survey

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Its fun to shite on ugly/poor dudes and makes women feel good.

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men, especially here on the OT, do this ALL the time. Then we try to improve ourselves with make up and are called liars. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS

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women love smashing down on the lower status fellas.

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must be the women YOU are attracted to.

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Imagine dating and NBA player and thinking hes going to NOT sleep with other women.

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well, it’s an expectation we hold for ALL men - plenty of regular sanitation workers have trouble staying faithful too

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Women are also more educated than ever, higher earning than ever, more politically active than ever, have a higher rate of home ownership, car ownership, et

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this is because we had to set educated to get better jobs because men don’t always provide - this ‘women are better off than ever’ is because of men

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The sex standard is set by women. If you have ripped your clothes off for zero then thats the standard because whatever that guy had led to him getting the most prized thing you have to offer.

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Who are these women? Do they have a coven or something? Did they draw up the Ten Commandments of Pussy and that's what we all have to live by? Is there a membership fee?

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When you turn around and do not offer the same to other men it suggests you are not into them.

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Just like men I know who engaged in casual sex (especially during their college years, pre-marriage) it's entirely possible that it's a maturity issue. Our prefrontal cortex doesn't even fully develop until the age of 25. People do grow and change in a way that they move into a season of life where they are looking for a long-term relationship.

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n the other hand, if you are a woman who has never done that, then you can demand more courtship.

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Duh… he’s owed sex bc other men have gotten sex at some point in history. It’s his birthright.

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You somehow keep taking away the wrong interpretation. I assume this is probably because you have the feminist blogs that say men are sex monsters echoing in your head.

You understand Im speaking of general dating dynamics and not my own personal feelings, right?


I have never sked for sex from a woman on the first date, nor did I ever expect it.

You seem incapable of understanding this describes broad western dating dynamics in a world where women have slept around with a lot of men which was historically not the case. Women couldn't have slept with a lot of men not only because of diseases but also because of access to men that werent blood, birth control, and risks of complications in pregnancy. No internet or dating apps or even knowledge of other social groups and/or classes.


Only the last 20 years have given women seemingly infinite sex partners. Western women are the most sexually experienced in human history. Its easy to see how this is possible.

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Want to join my coven? I think I want to start one.

This is a great distraction from the Oweh rumors I’m hearing.

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He's playing tonight, he was in shoot around this morning but is still managing turf toe.

But yes, coven it is.

This game always gives me anxiety.

We need a fun name. I know GRT is in.