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Woman files federal suit to block son’s circumcision
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:37 pm
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A Boynton Beach woman who went into hiding with her 4 1/2-year-old son rather than abide by a judge’s order to have him circumcised has filed a lawsuit in federal court, claiming a forced circumcision would violate her son’s constitutional rights.
In the lawsuit filed Monday in U.S. District Court, Heather Hironimus claims there is no medical justification to circumcise her son, identified as C.R.N.H.., and many legal and medical reasons not to do it.
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Three months after the boy was born in 2010, Nebus, 47, of Boca Raton, filed suit to establish his parental rights. In 2012, Hironimus signed a parenting agreement, allowing Nebus to have the boy circumcised as long as he paid for it. Soon after, she said she had second thoughts about allowing her son to undergo the procedure.
She launched a court battle and one on social media seeking to persuade Gillen not to enforce the agreement. After various court hearings, Gillen in May ruled that the agreement trumped her reservations. The 4th District Court of Appeal upheld his decision without comment.
Protests by those who identify themselves as “intactivists have been held throughout the county to support Hironimus’ efforts to spare her son from circumcision.
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Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:38 pm to WPBTiger
That takes balls
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:38 pm to WPBTiger
quote:
claims there is no medical justification to circumcise her son,
She's going to have a hard time proving that in court.
The literature is not on her side.
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4 1/2-year-old
But at this point, you should just spare him the procedure. Too old, too many developed nerves, and already a familiarity with his current little buddy.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:38 pm to WPBTiger
SNIP SNIP HOE
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:42 pm to WPBTiger
quote:This is a wholy skewed description.
rather than abide by a judge’s order to have him circumcised
The judge isn't ordering her to get the circumcision.
He is ordering her to abide by the contract she agreed to.
You can't renege on a contractual obligation.
quote:She signed an agreement.
In 2012, Hironimus signed a parenting agreement, allowing Nebus to have the boy circumcised as long as he paid for it.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:44 pm to Scruffy
yeah, it's contract law not 1st amendment.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:45 pm to Scruffy
Why is this so important to people? We had our son circumcised, but if there would have been any argument one way or the other, I don't think I would have put up much of a fight, because I just don't care.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:47 pm to KG6
quote:Irrelevant.
Why is this so important to people? We had our son circumcised, but if there would have been any argument one way or the other, I don't think I would have put up much of a fight, because I just don't care.
Scruffy doesn't care either way, but one of the parents wants the circ and the other parent agreed to it.
She is contractually obliged to follow through.
Now, Scruffy's opinion of doing it at 4.5 yo is a definite negative, but she broke a contract.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:50 pm to MSMHater
quote:
She's going to have a hard time proving that in court.
The literature is not on her side.
Literature from what time period? Certainly not modern medicine.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:52 pm to Scruffy
Man I agree, but the kid is 4 years old. We're not talking about goods and services. This kid will remember this for the rest of his life. At some point this becomes unreasonable. Penalize her for sure, but don't snip that poor kid. And I'm a pro-circumcision guy.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:54 pm to WPBTiger
The mother is proving to be the ultimate cock blocker.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:56 pm to Barf
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Certainly not modern medicine
My dad had to be circumcised at the age of 53 for medical reason. Medically it is better to have it done in the long run. Im glad it was done to me as a baby, rather than as a fully grown adult male. Doing it at 4 1/2 is still better than that.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:58 pm to Scruffy
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Now, Scruffy's opinion of doing it at 4.5 yo is a definite negative, but she broke a contract.
So the kid should get snipped & then sue Mom for pain and suffering.......win-win-lose-profit
Posted on 4/14/15 at 12:59 pm to WPBTiger
The dad needs to back off at this point. No need to play the spite game with your son's anteater, especially at that age.
I agree with the principle of the mother needing to stand behind the contract she signed, fwiw.
I agree with the principle of the mother needing to stand behind the contract she signed, fwiw.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:00 pm to WPBTiger
Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:06 pm to Oates Mustache
quote:Scruffy agrees. Doing it at that age is definitely unreasonable.
Man I agree, but the kid is 4 years old. We're not talking about goods and services. This kid will remember this for the rest of his life. At some point this becomes unreasonable. Penalize her for sure, but don't snip that poor kid. And I'm a pro-circumcision guy.
She should face some penalties for breaking the agreement.
It may impact any custody issues in the future.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:06 pm to NYNolaguy1
She should not have signed the contract. That's the mohel of the story.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:08 pm to Gorilla Fingers
No, he was posted a few posts up. Come on man, you're supposed to be a cut above the rest of the posters here.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 1:17 pm to Barf
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Literature from what time period? Certainly not modern medicine.
Until you get greater than the current 30%-40% vaccination rates for Gardisil, you're wrong. Circumcision provides significant protection against transmission of HPV, which subsequently causes most ovarian cancers and a third of oral cancers. Prevalence of HPV and inadequate vaccination rates means circumcision still has alot of benefit.
Get the HPV vaccination rate above 80%, and I think you could argue the lack of medical benefit in a first world country For circumcision.
This post was edited on 4/14/15 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 4/14/15 at 3:18 pm to MSMHater
Would soap also protect against some of that?
Think of all the diseases women could avoid if we just sewed their vaginas closed.
Think of all the diseases women could avoid if we just sewed their vaginas closed.
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