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re: Woman dies after contracting flesh-eating bacteria, Husband blames delayed diagnosis

Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
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Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:03 pm to
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Public hot tub's are some of the nastiest things around.


Soak and Poke
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:03 pm to
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he had inspiratory stridor
Correct
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You should have taken the child to the ER.
It was very minor though

Went to his primary peds the next day when we returned home from vacation

He said it was croup and no big deal. And he recovered a few days later



But now you have me freaked out and if I hear it again should I really go to ER? My pediatrician said it wasnt a big deal
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:05 pm to
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This is why running a business with MDs is so difficult. The most sensitive group of humans alive


Really? Do the MDs tell you how to crunch your numbers, run Microsoft excel, or write your reports?

Sounds like you just overstep your boundaries into territory that you admittedly “know nothing about”

While at the same time making back handed remarks that someone did something wrong. Why don’t you either own your statement that someone fricked up? But you should stop falling back on the excuse that “you don’t know medicine”, that just makes you look like a fool.

Or is your entire point that doctors in general can make mistakes? Because we already know that
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:07 pm to
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Really? Do the MDs tell you how to crunch your numbers, run Microsoft excel, or write your reports?
No

Well, sometimes they sure as shite tell me I am wasting my time auditing certain things
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Sounds like you just overstep your boundaries into territory that you admittedly “know nothing about”

I have never once told the MDs anything about medicine
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Why don’t you either own your statement that someone fricked up?
Because I didnt make it....
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Or is your entire point that doctors in general can make mistakes?
My entire point was antibitoics are prescribed far too much
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:11 pm to
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My entire point was antibitoics are prescribed far too much


That’s probably the wrong point to make in this thread. This person died because they didn’t have enough antibiotics.

And yea you did imply much more when you claimed the doctor was “lazy”. Literally the only fact you know for sure from that article is that the doctor gave an antibiotic. How do you get from that fact to the doctor being lazy? Just admit that you jumped to a big conclusion because of your bias
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:14 pm to
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And yea you did imply much more when you claimed the doctor was “lazy”. Literally the only fact you know for sure from that article is that the doctor gave an antibiotic. How do you get from that fact to the doctor being lazy?
I literally in the very first post said that isnt neccessarrily the case here. I literally said that


I also even further explained it by page2 that the doctor may have done exactly what they should have in this case in order to clarify my point so people wouldnt think I am pointing fingers at this doctor

And in that post on page 2 I also said that is for the doctors to discuss in here because they are the ones that know medicine, not myself


You need to settle down Doc, we are all in this together. Administration is here to make your job easier.....
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 3:15 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:18 pm to
Actually you literally said

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The antibiotic and heating pad diagnosis screams lazy, possible negligent practice though. Not necessarily, but it is like the highlights of a lazy diagnosis


Sounds like a bunch of wishy washy bullshite filled with arrogant statements

Maybe the doctor should have said “you possibly have an infection, not necessarily though”. It would be nice to kind of, but not really own your statements
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:20 pm to
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You need to settle down Doc, we are all in this together. Administration is here to make your job easier.....


all good. I would just think from another perspective when you start throwing around words like lazy and negligent when the only fact you know is that they gave an antibiotic.

That’s like me saying “yea that administrator ran an audit, sounds like a lazy negligent guy”. That’s not a fair statement and neither is yours. Antibiotics are prescribed every day and there are millions of properly treated infections a year, saving countless lives.
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 3:23 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:20 pm to
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Sounds like a bunch of wishy washy bullshite filled with arrogant statements
You seem very mad


I dont know what else to tell you


I dont think I am a doctor

I dont think i know more than doctors


I simply think of the possibility of a lazy doctor when I hear "here is your antibiotic, go home"


Does that mean the doctor is lazy or wrong? no. But my biased human brain thinks that is a possibility when I hear it.



To make this all better, do i need to kiss your stethoscope so we can all move on?
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:24 pm to
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That’s like me saying “yea that administrator ran an audit, sounds like a lazy negligent guy”. That’s not a fair statement and neither is yours.
It would absolutely be "fair" (not sure what fair has to do with anything) if I did something that often could be a sign of a lazy audit.


I would only call you a prick a-hole if after I showed you why it wasnt lazy, if you still called me lazy and thought you knew more than me.


I dont get offended when people question my work, and neither should you......


I only get mad when after proving my work was effecient, someone with less knowledge still questions it out of ignorance.



Right away in this thread when the medical doctors said this was proper protocol, I took their word from it and nothing more


Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:25 pm to
Well I don’t know what else to tell you

This isn’t a “I’m smarter than you” argument. This is me saying maybe you should not be so quick to call people lazy and negligent based on very little facts. Do you know what happened in the office visit?

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I simply think of the possibility of a lazy doctor when I hear "here is your antibiotic, go home"


Yea because of your bias against doctors. Why would that be your first thought? Antibiotics have saved billions of lives.

You jump to a lot of conclusions that is all
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:28 pm to
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You jump to a lot of conclusions that is all


Sure do.

Then I gather info from experts in the field, which would be doctors here, before forming my final opnion
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:30 pm to
Yea I definitely over reacted I just found it incredible that you actually work with medical professionals and have that level of bias and ignorance toward doctors and medicine in general
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:32 pm to
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I just found it incredible that you actually work with medical professionals and have that level of bias and ignorance toward doctors and medicine in general

I have worked in many fields as an auditor (banking, finance, contruction, media, healthcare)

I will say this, doctors are the single hardest group to work with. Some are fantastic, but as a whole, it is very difficult. Likely where my bias comes from

I can admit though there are people on the admin side that def dont help the relationship at all.

This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:43 pm to
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I will say this, doctors are the single hardest group to work with. Some are fantastic, but as a whole, it is very difficult. Likely where my bias comes from


Fair enough. It might come from the fact that society expects a doctor to always be right in a situation that is more complex than any of the other positions you listed.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124694 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:43 pm to
I always pee in the hot tub
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
122536 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:45 pm to
Good grief, people use hot tubs at hotels and rentals?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:45 pm to
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It might come from the fact that society expects a doctor to always be right in a situation that is more complex than any of the other positions you listed.
I think doctors are very very smart individuals who are drivers most of the time, so they dont take kindly to someone they view as inferior telling them they could make potential improvements.


My job really sucks sometimes
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:52 pm to
I think most doctors would be open to hearing how you could improve their business, I can understand why they might get a little defensive when you start telling them when and where they should prescribe antibiotics.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
99550 posts
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:55 pm to
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I can understand why they might get a little defensive when you start telling them when and where they should prescribe antibiotics.


That isnt how an audit like that would work


Very rarely do we have an audit that gets clinical like that. But when we do, we would pull and analayze data on a numbers basis, then contact an independent doctor to reciew the actual clinical medical work and make opinions on that side of it
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I think most doctors would be open to hearing how you could improve their business
Not usually. And that seems consistent with most health systems with the conferences I attend. Always seems to be friction with the clinical and admin side
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