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re: Woman dies after contracting flesh-eating bacteria, Husband blames delayed diagnosis
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:03 pm to JOJO Hammer
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:03 pm to JOJO Hammer
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Public hot tub's are some of the nastiest things around.
Soak and Poke
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:03 pm to lsupride87
quote:Correct
he had inspiratory stridor
quote:It was very minor though
You should have taken the child to the ER.
Went to his primary peds the next day when we returned home from vacation
He said it was croup and no big deal. And he recovered a few days later
But now you have me freaked out and if I hear it again should I really go to ER? My pediatrician said it wasnt a big deal
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:05 pm to lsupride87
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This is why running a business with MDs is so difficult. The most sensitive group of humans alive
Really? Do the MDs tell you how to crunch your numbers, run Microsoft excel, or write your reports?
Sounds like you just overstep your boundaries into territory that you admittedly “know nothing about”
While at the same time making back handed remarks that someone did something wrong. Why don’t you either own your statement that someone fricked up? But you should stop falling back on the excuse that “you don’t know medicine”, that just makes you look like a fool.
Or is your entire point that doctors in general can make mistakes? Because we already know that
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:07 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:No
Really? Do the MDs tell you how to crunch your numbers, run Microsoft excel, or write your reports?
Well, sometimes they sure as shite tell me I am wasting my time auditing certain things
quote:I have never once told the MDs anything about medicine
Sounds like you just overstep your boundaries into territory that you admittedly “know nothing about”
quote:Because I didnt make it....
Why don’t you either own your statement that someone fricked up?
quote:My entire point was antibitoics are prescribed far too much
Or is your entire point that doctors in general can make mistakes?
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:11 pm to lsupride87
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My entire point was antibitoics are prescribed far too much
That’s probably the wrong point to make in this thread. This person died because they didn’t have enough antibiotics.
And yea you did imply much more when you claimed the doctor was “lazy”. Literally the only fact you know for sure from that article is that the doctor gave an antibiotic. How do you get from that fact to the doctor being lazy? Just admit that you jumped to a big conclusion because of your bias
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:14 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:I literally in the very first post said that isnt neccessarrily the case here. I literally said that
And yea you did imply much more when you claimed the doctor was “lazy”. Literally the only fact you know for sure from that article is that the doctor gave an antibiotic. How do you get from that fact to the doctor being lazy?
I also even further explained it by page2 that the doctor may have done exactly what they should have in this case in order to clarify my point so people wouldnt think I am pointing fingers at this doctor
And in that post on page 2 I also said that is for the doctors to discuss in here because they are the ones that know medicine, not myself
You need to settle down Doc, we are all in this together. Administration is here to make your job easier.....
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:18 pm to lsupride87
Actually you literally said
Sounds like a bunch of wishy washy bullshite filled with arrogant statements
Maybe the doctor should have said “you possibly have an infection, not necessarily though”. It would be nice to kind of, but not really own your statements
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The antibiotic and heating pad diagnosis screams lazy, possible negligent practice though. Not necessarily, but it is like the highlights of a lazy diagnosis
Sounds like a bunch of wishy washy bullshite filled with arrogant statements
Maybe the doctor should have said “you possibly have an infection, not necessarily though”. It would be nice to kind of, but not really own your statements
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:20 pm to lsupride87
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You need to settle down Doc, we are all in this together. Administration is here to make your job easier.....
all good. I would just think from another perspective when you start throwing around words like lazy and negligent when the only fact you know is that they gave an antibiotic.
That’s like me saying “yea that administrator ran an audit, sounds like a lazy negligent guy”. That’s not a fair statement and neither is yours. Antibiotics are prescribed every day and there are millions of properly treated infections a year, saving countless lives.
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:20 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:You seem very mad
Sounds like a bunch of wishy washy bullshite filled with arrogant statements
I dont know what else to tell you
I dont think I am a doctor
I dont think i know more than doctors
I simply think of the possibility of a lazy doctor when I hear "here is your antibiotic, go home"
Does that mean the doctor is lazy or wrong? no. But my biased human brain thinks that is a possibility when I hear it.
To make this all better, do i need to kiss your stethoscope so we can all move on?
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:24 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:It would absolutely be "fair" (not sure what fair has to do with anything) if I did something that often could be a sign of a lazy audit.
That’s like me saying “yea that administrator ran an audit, sounds like a lazy negligent guy”. That’s not a fair statement and neither is yours.
I would only call you a prick a-hole if after I showed you why it wasnt lazy, if you still called me lazy and thought you knew more than me.
I dont get offended when people question my work, and neither should you......
I only get mad when after proving my work was effecient, someone with less knowledge still questions it out of ignorance.
Right away in this thread when the medical doctors said this was proper protocol, I took their word from it and nothing more
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:25 pm to lsupride87
Well I don’t know what else to tell you
This isn’t a “I’m smarter than you” argument. This is me saying maybe you should not be so quick to call people lazy and negligent based on very little facts. Do you know what happened in the office visit?
Yea because of your bias against doctors. Why would that be your first thought? Antibiotics have saved billions of lives.
You jump to a lot of conclusions that is all
This isn’t a “I’m smarter than you” argument. This is me saying maybe you should not be so quick to call people lazy and negligent based on very little facts. Do you know what happened in the office visit?
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I simply think of the possibility of a lazy doctor when I hear "here is your antibiotic, go home"
Yea because of your bias against doctors. Why would that be your first thought? Antibiotics have saved billions of lives.
You jump to a lot of conclusions that is all
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:28 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Sure do.
You jump to a lot of conclusions that is all
Then I gather info from experts in the field, which would be doctors here, before forming my final opnion
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:30 pm to lsupride87
Yea I definitely over reacted I just found it incredible that you actually work with medical professionals and have that level of bias and ignorance toward doctors and medicine in general
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:32 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:I have worked in many fields as an auditor (banking, finance, contruction, media, healthcare)
I just found it incredible that you actually work with medical professionals and have that level of bias and ignorance toward doctors and medicine in general
I will say this, doctors are the single hardest group to work with. Some are fantastic, but as a whole, it is very difficult. Likely where my bias comes from
I can admit though there are people on the admin side that def dont help the relationship at all.
This post was edited on 5/11/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:43 pm to lsupride87
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I will say this, doctors are the single hardest group to work with. Some are fantastic, but as a whole, it is very difficult. Likely where my bias comes from
Fair enough. It might come from the fact that society expects a doctor to always be right in a situation that is more complex than any of the other positions you listed.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:43 pm to DemonKA3268
I always pee in the hot tub
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:45 pm to DemonKA3268
Good grief, people use hot tubs at hotels and rentals?
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:45 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:I think doctors are very very smart individuals who are drivers most of the time, so they dont take kindly to someone they view as inferior telling them they could make potential improvements.
It might come from the fact that society expects a doctor to always be right in a situation that is more complex than any of the other positions you listed.
My job really sucks sometimes
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:52 pm to lsupride87
I think most doctors would be open to hearing how you could improve their business, I can understand why they might get a little defensive when you start telling them when and where they should prescribe antibiotics.
Posted on 5/11/18 at 3:55 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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I can understand why they might get a little defensive when you start telling them when and where they should prescribe antibiotics.
That isnt how an audit like that would work
Very rarely do we have an audit that gets clinical like that. But when we do, we would pull and analayze data on a numbers basis, then contact an independent doctor to reciew the actual clinical medical work and make opinions on that side of it
quote:Not usually. And that seems consistent with most health systems with the conferences I attend. Always seems to be friction with the clinical and admin side
I think most doctors would be open to hearing how you could improve their business
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