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re: With more solar farms in the works, West Baton Rouge leaders move to require permits
Posted on 1/15/21 at 8:54 am to GREENHEAD22
Posted on 1/15/21 at 8:54 am to GREENHEAD22
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Do some research on a photovoltaic technology. The majority of the solar industry is a money losing scam and a environmental waste.
LOL dude I've deployed millions of GWh of solar. I have current IE reports from DNVGL, B&V, etc. discussing degradation on every type of PV technology. I also know the economics and have secured billions of financing from the most sophisticated banks in the world. Your absolute statement is wrong.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 8:56 am
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Posted on 1/15/21 at 8:56 am to stewie
quote:Which crops are carbon negative?
Green energy is great except when you are permanently destroying land that was producing a net carbon consuming agricultural crop.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:00 am to billjamin
quote:I don't know if I've ever seen someone pick a more lopsided fight.quote:LOL dude I've deployed millions of GWh of solar. I have current IE reports from DNVGL, B&V, etc. discussing degradation on every type of PV technology. I also know the economics and have secured billions of financing from the most sophisticated banks in the world. Your absolute statement is wrong.
Do some research on a photovoltaic technology. The majority of the solar industry is a money losing scam and a environmental waste.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:04 am to billjamin
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I also know the economics and have secured billions of financing from the most sophisticated banks in the world. Your absolute statement is wrong.
It’s only currently economically feasible due to state and federal tax credits. That’s not a secret ... anyone and everyone in the state remotely involved with solar farms knows this.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:06 am to stewie
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It’s only currently economically feasible due to state and federal tax credits. That’s not a secret ... anyone and everyone in the state remotely involved with solar farms knows this.
For fricks sake no. Making an absolute statement like this is wrong. Some need the ITC, but I've seen many projects that are profitable without it. It depends.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:06 am to billjamin
Well since you are in the industry and an expert why don't you tell us the technological advances that have made it cost effective.
The only one I've had experience with still relied on federal and state subsidies to be economic and this was roughly 4 years ago.
Also, taking the one in Roseland, which appears to be atleast several hundred acres. How much energy can a "farm" like that produce on average.
The only one I've had experience with still relied on federal and state subsidies to be economic and this was roughly 4 years ago.
Also, taking the one in Roseland, which appears to be atleast several hundred acres. How much energy can a "farm" like that produce on average.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 9:11 am
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:09 am to Korkstand
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Which crops are carbon negative?
Name your crop...
For this particular area, sugarcane. In these fields you have a perennial crop taking in carbon dioxide from the atmosphere year round. There are carbon inputs but the net carbon extraction is substantially greater.
For awhile, you could sell a carbon credit on sugarcane land.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:09 am to billjamin
Can you speak to the necessary mining to produce solar panels? Seems to get what we’d need to have solar on a large (read: majority) scale would take a ton of mining.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:12 am to GREENHEAD22
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Well since you are in the industry and an expert why don't you tell us the technological advances that have made it cost effective.
The only one I've had experience with still relied on federal and state subsidies to be economic and this was roughly 4 years ago.
To be clear I'm in the energy business. I've done solar, wind, offshore O&G, land O&G, fracked, pads, blah blah blah.
So, I'm no solar sunshine pumper (pun intended). The biggest advances have been in GHI and meteorological data sets and the irradiance forecasting, module level power electronics, and increased cell yield density. There are other, but those have the biggest impact in my mind.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:14 am to billjamin
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Making an absolute statement like this is wrong. Some need the ITC, but I've seen many projects that are profitable without it. It depends.
I’ve literally had people in the solar development industry tell me this. Over the phone and to my face...
It is a huge issue because it brings the viability to the whole model into question.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:17 am to stewie
quote:Well agriculture as a whole is a net carbon producer, so..
Name your crop...
quote:Thanks I'll look into it.
For this particular area, sugarcane. In these fields you have a perennial crop taking in carbon dioxide from the atmosphere year round. There are carbon inputs but the net carbon extraction is substantially greater.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:18 am to jimbeam
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Can you speak to the necessary mining to produce solar panels? Seems to get what we’d need to have solar on a large (read: majority) scale would take a ton of mining.
I know very little about the mining needed other than it can be quite gnarly. Notice I never pump up solar as "green." Its an alternative energy source and a viable one but I push back on green.
Also, anyone wanting majority solar is stupid. I want diversity of generation type and location. The location thing is where solar has huge advantages for generating at the point of demand.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:19 am to billjamin
OK, will you seem to be more on the finance side of things so if that is the case I am just curious. What would a project similar to the one in Roseland cost? Say a 1000 acre project. I know there are a lot of variables I'm just asking for a ballpark.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:19 am to stewie
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I’ve literally had people in the solar development industry tell me this. Over the phone and to my face...
It is a huge issue because it brings the viability to the whole model into question.
I think many in the industry have worked their unit economics to require it and that becomes a talking point. I've seen many projects that the economic analysis was positive without the ITC or local incentives.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:21 am to goofball
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really is time for West Baton Rouge to consider itself a suburban parish rather than a rural one. Otherwise out of state companies like this will take advantage of it - occupying vast amount of space and creating almost 0 jobs. We need to make better use of land that doesn't flood in this state.
Why haven’t the parish lines been adjusted? There are too many parishes with unnecessary government levels. I moved from kern county with a population of 1 million people, but the county stretched 200 miles E-W and 100 miles N-S. Does LA need a parish every 20 miles down the road?
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:21 am to billjamin
So why not raze unused industrial locations or use the top of warehouses? I am assuming economies of scale?
Just curious since you said point of the demand is a key factor.
Just curious since you said point of the demand is a key factor.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:21 am to goofball
Now they're worried about aesthetics.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:23 am to GREENHEAD22
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OK, will you seem to be more on the finance side of things so if that is the case I am just curious. What would a project similar to the one in Roseland cost? Say a 1000 acre project. I know there are a lot of variables I'm just asking for a ballpark.
I walk this weird line between finance and engineering. I mostly work with independent engineers and banks.
Let me see if i have anything i can reference for cost. idk off the top of my head since i've been swimming in gas distribution lately.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 9:24 am
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:24 am to GREENHEAD22
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Go use worthless pine plantation land for it. Not prime row crop land.
Who cares about crop land? Just get your food from the grocery store like everyone else.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:28 am to GREENHEAD22
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So why not raze unused industrial locations or use the top of warehouses? I am assuming economies of scale?
Just curious since you said point of the demand is a key factor.
The warehouse roof thing becoming more popular for that very reason. There have been a couple new lenders who are solely focusing on that to setup PPAs or leases. Its especially popular in areas with unreliable grids, i.e. Puerto Rico, CA, etc.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 9:31 am
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