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re: Wind energy company pleads guilty to killing 150 eagles in the US
Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:17 am to White Bear
Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:17 am to White Bear
quote:What's to "admit" here? Supply chains are long, everything requires energy, and a whole lot of our energy is produced with fossil fuels.
Will you admit products used to produce "renewable energy" such as wind turbines, solar panels, etc. are produced with fossil fuels?
There's no fairy dust. What are you getting at? Do you need help understanding the trade-offs here?
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:30 am to tigerinthebueche
Deepwater Horizon and Exxon Valdez happen so long ago you already forgot?
Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:46 am to weagle99
My shocked face at hearing this news.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:53 am to White Bear
quote:Who the frick is making the argument to the contrary?
Will you admit products used to produce "renewable energy" such as wind turbines, solar panels, etc. are produced with fossil fuels?
Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:54 am to Korkstand
quote:
I think offshore wind makes a ton of sense
seagulls and cormorants have over populated. messing with you.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:55 am to Korkstand
What are your thoughts on the amount of VARS produced by wind and solar applications? Do you think the lack of rotor size could be detrimental in to moving electricity even moderate distances?
Do you see any issue having this combined with the recent push for efficient, low VAR turbines such as the CCGT? What is your solution to this potential problem?
Do you see any issue having this combined with the recent push for efficient, low VAR turbines such as the CCGT? What is your solution to this potential problem?
Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:55 am to Korkstand
quote:Enlighten me, please.
Do you need help understanding the trade-offs here?
quote:The farce that is "renewable energy". The "renewable energy" sector is built and maintained with fossil fuels.
What are you getting at?
Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:56 am to nugget
quote:Just so the classroom understands you correctly, are you asking if the rotor size on a particular turbine has a direct correlation to how far the power can be moved?
Do you think the lack of rotor size could be detrimental in to moving electricity even moderate distances?
Posted on 4/7/22 at 9:58 am to weagle99
I said this in a thread a few years back when I still had them as a customer
The eagles were big, but there were TONS of other birds and raptors
coyotes usually take care of them pretty quick
The eagles were big, but there were TONS of other birds and raptors
coyotes usually take care of them pretty quick
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:00 am to drichtigers
quote:
Oil has done far more damage than wind farms will ever approach.
It provides far more energy than wind farms will ever approach too.
How bout this: every component of a wind farm is rare earth metal or petroleum based
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:04 am to TexasTiger90
The amount of VARS on the grid determine the ability to move electricity long distances. Larger conventional steam turbine/generators that are in reserve are put in place all over the country just to increase VARS, regardless of the amount of megawatts needed.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:18 am to TexasTiger90
quote:
Deepwater Horizon and Exxon Valdez happen so long ago you already forgot?
I remember the dispersants used in response did more long term environmental damage than the spill.
Seems like Ida did more to frick up GI and the coast than BP. But Mother Nature doesn’t hand out money to everyone and you can’t sue her so…
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:19 am to nugget
quote:VAR compensation is a thing.
What are your thoughts on the amount of VARS produced by wind and solar applications?
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:25 am to Korkstand
quote:
only killed 150 eagles
The bright side is that they're endangered and it won't be long before the turbines kill them all.
Then it won't be an issue!
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:30 am to dandyjohn
quote:
My shocked face at hearing this news.
back at you
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:30 am to White Bear
quote:To start you have to have an idea of the quantities involved. You can't just say "you're using fossil fuels to avoid using fossil fuels" and leave it at that. If you're using a barrel to save a barrel, that's obviously pointless. If you're using a barrel to save ten barrels, then you're getting a return. In the end everything is reduced to energy, and profitability essentially comes down to energy out minus energy in. Wind energy is much cheaper than energy from most other sources. I'll let you figure out why that is.
Enlighten me, please.
quote:And we mastered electricity by candlelight. What kind of point do you think you're making?
The farce that is "renewable energy". The "renewable energy" sector is built and maintained with fossil fuels.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 10:36 am to weagle99
If an oil company would have killed one eagle it would have been on every news outlet in the country.
Clean energy…..
Clean energy…..
Posted on 4/7/22 at 11:06 am to tigerinthebueche
A Spanish Red Kite. Neat.
Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:31 pm to DomincDecoco
quote:
coyotes usually take care of them pretty quick
Exactly.
The number of bird deaths for these things are way under reported. Someone once posted ‘I don’t ever see any dead birds laying on the ground at wind farms.’ Well no shite, they are scavenged and long gone by the time you make your once a month visit.
This post was edited on 4/7/22 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 4/7/22 at 3:37 pm to weagle99
quote:
Someone once posted ‘I don’t ever see any dead birds laying on the ground at wind farms.’ Well no shite, they are scavenged and long gone by the time you make your once a month visit.
I said that. And I spend half the year living on a wind farm. Still haven't seen a single dead bird.
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