re: Will this really work? Ford to lose $3 billion this year on EV sales?

Hurry up everyone, let's go totally green in everything that is built.

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Solyndra was trying to develop a new type of PV module

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They weren't trying to generate revenue and eventually a profit?

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Ford’s isn’t innovating, they’re just trying to make normal EVs.

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They're not innovating??

Most Innovative design Companies of 2022

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2. FORD MOTOR CO.
For building America’s electric vehicle

The F-150 Lightning, which goes on sale in 2022 after much fanfare, is the electrified version of the best-selling vehicle in U.S. history. This is a moment. On top of entering the market as an affordable EV performance version of America’s favorite vehicle and reaching nearly 200,000 preorders before Ford paused them, the F-150 is also a backup storage battery for your home that can run for days on end. This is just the sort of advanced, vehicle-to-grid power-sharing technology that researchers at UCLA proved out years ago and nearly everyone in the energy industry agrees is needed to balance power loads. But Ford is the first manufacturer bold enough to ship the option. However, car watchers shouldn’t let too much electric truck distract them from Ford’s other exciting releases. The company’s other new truck, the Maverick, starts at under $20,000. Its open bed is designed to be hacked with 2x4s, for anything from storing plants to constructing your own camping setup. In 2022, Ford has made buying a truck a tantalizing option.

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Eventually. If the product had worked. Which it didn’t.

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So you agree?

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No. They’re making boring old EVs with no tech that hasn’t already been developed. Packaging existing EV tech in a truck chassis isn’t innovating no matter what some paid for article says.

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Absolutely nothing new with EV tech within the Ford Lightning? What are they doing with the Rouge Electric Vehicle Center?

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crocs

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Had no idea that they are the ones behind those ugly Yeezy slides but they're making stacks of money.

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What’s innovative or new about either?

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Going off of Merriam-Webster

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1: to introduce as or as if new

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The F-150 Lightning is the first EV truck from Ford and I believe it is the only full-size truck available on the market.

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2: to effect a change in

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The Rouge Electric Vehicle Center will create a change in the way that electric vehicles are manufactured for Ford.

I hope it works out for Ford but they have a long ways to go, their profit projections seem incredibly optimistic.

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I just don’t see putting the same old tech in a truck chassis and copying what Tesla has done at Fremont or Sparks as innovating.

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So you agree that Ford will continue to lose money on their EV line?

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So you agree that Ford will continue to lose money on their EV line?

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what does that have to do with innovation?

I’d say they have a better chance at profitability since they’re just copying existing tech.

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what does that have to do with innovation?

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Circling back to your statement of it being a "stupid gotcha."

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Ford and Solyndra have nothing in common other than that they’re both companies and have investors.

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Nothing at all, really?


Do Federal subsidies sound familiar to you?

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I didn’t realize Ford was getting DOE loans.

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They're getting government money

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From who? Fed? State? Local?
Loan? Tax rebate? Grant?

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Fed: Inflation Reduction Act was a big win for electric vehicle manufacturers.

$1Bn from Michigan

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Critical Industry Program (CIP) through Strategic Outreach and Attraction Reserve Fund (SOAR) – $210 million
The Critical Industry Program will support a $3.5 billion investment in Michigan that will lead to the creation of 2,500 new jobs.
MSF Designated Renaissance Zone – $772 million
The Renaissance Zone will reduce both real and personal property taxes for a period of 15 years
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