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Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:22 pm to lsupride87
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Fun Bunch, I feel like earlier you tried to say once self defense was the plea, that the burden shifted to the defense
tLSU disagrees. From a few posts up.
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Once a defendant raises that defense, the burden of proof is on the state to show that the killing was not justified.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:22 pm to lsupride87
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Say the words you were wrong about the law
Right after you say it for your comments yesterday.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:23 pm to reddman
quote:But I am right now
Theses recesses suck. It always ends up in all of us showing how much we don't know about the law, me included.
May have been wrong a million other times, but this time I am right and I am letting my cock swing baws
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:24 pm to TigerFred
quote:We have established the law.
tLSU disagrees. From a few posts up.
But I am specifically remember yesterday, fun bunch saying the burden of proof was on hayes and reasonable doubt was no longer in his favor
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:24 pm to TigerFred
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tLSU disagrees. From a few posts up.
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That's cool, because that isn't what I said at all. In fact I posted the relevant law before he even posted. I agree with tLSU.
My point was that I think the prosecution is doing their job and the Defense will need to pull that back and show that the fear WAS reasonable and that he acted reasonably.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:24 pm to reddman
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Theses recesses suck. It always ends up in all of us showing how much we don't know about the law, me included
This "discussion" is an absolute shite show.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:25 pm to LNCHBOX
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Except for where I clearly said it just a few posts ago
Oh really? You gotta link?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:25 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:What was I wrong about?
Right after you say it for your comments yesterday.
I said from the beginning I dont care about the law, I can only say how I feel. I never said the wrong law, like you have
Lnch was wrong about the law
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:25 pm to lsupride87
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But I am specifically remember yesterday, fun bunch saying the burden of proof was on hayes and reasonable doubt was no longer in his favor
That may be what he said but a different poster who is also a lawyer that is sitting in the courtroom disagrees with fun bunch.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:25 pm to lsupride87
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But I am specifically remember yesterday, fun bunch saying the burden of proof was on hayes and reasonable doubt was no longer in his favor
I don't think I ever said that. If I did my point was that once the prosecution establishes their case and pistol whips the self defense argument, Hayes/Fuller will need to pull that back and demonstrate that his fear was reasonable.
Maybe I worded it poorly.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:26 pm to TigahJay
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Oh really? You gotta link?
If you can't see it, no link will help.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:26 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:that is absolutely not what you said
My point was that I think the prosecution is doing their job and the Defense will need to pull that back and show that the fear WAS reasonable and that he acted reasonably.
post coming baw
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:26 pm to TigerFred
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That may be what he said but a different poster who is also a lawyer that is sitting in the courtroom disagrees with fun bunch.
I posted the relevant law before he even posted man.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:27 pm to reddman
I admit to not knowing law but my general feeling this far is no way they can have a M2 conviction based on this evidence
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:27 pm to lsupride87
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that is absolutely not what you said
Wow you're so amazing.
Why would I post that and then post the relevant law today.
You know what I meant, and I've tried to explain what I meant. Now you're just being a douche bag.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:27 pm to lsupride87
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I said from the beginning I dont care about the law, I can only say how I feel. I never said the wrong law, like you have
You didn't care about the law when you were wrong about it, but you won't admit it. Yet you'll sit here and act like an arse to me for doing exactly what you did.
It's hilarious that you think i'm the only insufferable one out of the two of us. You're a hypocrite.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:27 pm to LNCHBOX
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If you can't see it, no link will help.
Hard to see something that isn't there. Link?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:29 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Look, I give you kudos because you posted the correct law today. But yesterday, you inferred differently
Wow you're so amazing.
Why would I post that and then post the relevant law today.
You know what I meant, and I've tried to explain what I meant. Now you're just being a douche bag.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 12/8/16 at 1:30 pm to nola000
If Mr. Hayes was inclined to cap RS knees (plural) he was good enough to do the same with WS. If Self defense training was responsible for 7-8 bullets into WS because he was trained to do it that way, why did he only fire 2 wounding shots into RS? I think Mr. Hayes was in fact an excellent shot, cause his choice of a weapon certainly wasn't for an amateur.
I think ballistics will show wound placement on WS as tight and concentric except for the side shot where he was facing his wife. This wound placement will also help determine Mr. Hayes' position in the shooting.
I think ballistics will show wound placement on WS as tight and concentric except for the side shot where he was facing his wife. This wound placement will also help determine Mr. Hayes' position in the shooting.
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