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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter

Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:47 am to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:47 am to
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So Hayes DID intentionally ram him
According to Sunseri. Typical they would bring in a saints player as a crash expert
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:47 am
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:47 am to
Dropping 5.5 mph in half a second is not panic breaking?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:47 am to
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it won't be too too long


it was an ease brake knowing you were in for a collision. Hayes was driving with aggressive intent.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:48 am to
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Dropping 5.5 mph in half a second is not panic breaking?


Not per the expert.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:48 am to
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go in your car... get up to 21 and then just pull your foot off the gas... see how long before your down to 15

it won't be too too long
If it is a 1/2 second, your car if fricked up homie
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:48 am to
we may only be dealing with a 21 to 17 mph drop...
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:49 am to
But if he was trying to hit him why would there be any breaking at all?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:49 am to
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Im so confused. Going from 21 mph to 15mph due to breaking isnt "panic breaking"


Stopping from 20mph to zero doesn't take very long at all.
quote:

At 20 mph: Reaction Distance of 31 feet + Braking Distance of 36 feet = Stopping Distance of 67 feet. This means that if you are traveling at only 20 mph, you have to allow 67 feet of stopping distance for your vehicle after recognizing a hazard.


Posted by Janky
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:50 am to
I am going to time it when I go to lunch. I am guessing over 5 seconds.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:50 am to
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we may only be dealing with a 21 to 17 mph drop...
In 1/2 a second. It is clear he hit the breaks at the last minute. Defense will drill there is no way to know if that was to break for intentional impact, or to break because Hayes first notices the stop car

The expert witness will then agree that it is impossible to know for certain.

And fuller will hammer that home


Still is a good witness for the state
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:51 am to
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But if he was trying to hit him why would there be any breaking at all?


to appear like he "tried" to stop...
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:51 am to
The delta was 15.6 MPH...

this is what the "delta" is

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One common collision severity index is delta-v. Delta-v is the change in velocity of the subject object (vehicle, occupant or pedestrian) during the collision event. In the United States, Delta-V is usually expressed in miles per hour, although kilometers per hour are also used in technical literature. A vehicle to vehicle collision event typically has duration of less than 0.2 seconds (200 milliseconds). For example, if one car has a delta-v of 20 mph during a collision with another car, then that automobile experienced a change in speed of 20 mph over approximately 200 milliseconds or less.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:51 am to
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I am going to time it when I go to lunch. I am guessing over 5 seconds.




From 20mph? No chance over 5 seconds.
Posted by TigahJay
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:51 am to
Wasn't it established already that the brake lights on the Hummer went on before the crash?
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:52 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:51 am to
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breaks


clearly no expert, i dismiss anything you say.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:52 am to
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Wasn't it established already that the brake lights on the Hummer went on before the crash?


witness testimony just verified that ding dong.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:52 am to
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breaks


Brakes You and Janky are killing my elitist grammar skills.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:52 am to
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clearly no expert, i dismiss anything you say.
I pretty sure in your quote you said breaking. Which is why I said "breaks"
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:53 am to
From 20-15? How do I video on my phone then load it here?
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:54 am to
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Brakes You and Janky are killing my elitist grammar skills.


Wow, I am an idiot. Hooked on phonics will now be on my Christmas list.
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